vocd for only one language

[Brian MacWhinney]

Dear Vivienne,

    I am jumping into this discussion a bit late, so I may not fully understand the issues.  The basic method for running programs on a single language in all of the programs involves using the +s/-s switch as in -s"[- eng]" to exclude the English sentences in a transcript with mostly, say, Cantonese.  Leonid explains to me that this is perhaps not giving you what you want that you may want to use the +l switch instead.  However, the +l switch was created for a different purpose.  It seems to me that using +l would not be correct, because using it to exclude parts of utterances would give an incomplete picture of a given language.  Certainly, it would not be good for MLU. For VOCD, I can see an equally good argument on both sides.  
    In terms of the work your students are doing, I would need to have a clearer idea of what is necessary for which programs for which purposes on which format (downloaded vs. browsable transcripts) before trying to change anything.  Perhaps we can continue this discussion off ChiBolts and then post the final solution that we reach.

Best regards,

-- Brian MacWhinney

On Mar 25, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Vivienne Rogers <viviennerogers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Leonid
> 
> Thank you for that speedy response. I am trying to use the browsable transcripts as I use them with my classes and they do a data analysis as part of their assessment. We wouldn't be able to do the KWAL output without CLAN I think.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Vivienne
> 
> On 25/03/2014 16:32, Leonid Spektor wrote:
>> Vivienne,
>> 
>>  VOCD does not have +l option at this time. We will consider adding it to VOCD. In a meantime you can use KWAL to filter out specific language words from your original data and then run VOCD on the output of KWAL command. Here is a command to get just English words:
>> 
>> kwal +l +s*@s:eng +d +d3 +f  filename.cha
>> 
>> 
>> Leonid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 08:55, Vivienne Rogers <viviennerogers at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello. I'm trying to run vocd on a corpus that has two languages in in. I would like to calculate separate scores for each language. I tried the +l +s at s:eng that I have used for MLU and FREQ but it doesn't work for               vocd. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> Vivienne Rogers
>>> Swansea University
>>> 
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