DSS and KIDEVAL

[Amy Wilder]

Hi Leonid and Nan, 

Thank you for the quick responses! I really appreciate your help.

I have a follow-up question for Nan,

I am working on a research project and planning to compare my data to the 
KIDEVAL normative data. I would like to make sure I am scoring my DSS 
samples the same way that the KIDEVAL samples were scored. So, I was 
wondering if the DSS scores for the samples in the KIDEVAL database were 
all individually adjusted for complementing infinitive clauses. If they 
were, I will plan on adjusting the scores for my samples; if not, I will 
leave my scores unadjusted. Let me know, and thank you again for your help.

Best,

Amy Wilder

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-7 nratner wrote:

> The answer to the first question is not yet. We are working to do this as 
> we have just done for IPSyn (Yang et al. 2021)
> The answer to the second is that currently this adjustment must be made to 
> the individual DSS chart for the child, which is run using the DSS command 
> outside of KIDEVAL.  Happy to chat with you about this. Best regards,  Nan. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 5:45 PM Leonid Spektor <spe... at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Amy,
>>
>> 1. KIDEVAL only reports the total score. If you want to see individual 
>> DSS scores you need to run DSS command instead of KIDEVAL.
>>
>> 2. This question is better answered by someone else who is more familiar 
>> with DSS rules used to compute DSS scores. I am sure that person will 
>> answer this question soon.
>>
>>
>> Leonid. 
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 15:40, Amy Wilder <amywi... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have two questions about the DSS scores that are included in the 
>> KIDEVAL normative database.
>>
>> 1- Do you have normative data for the individual DSS scores (Indefinite 
>> Pronouns, Personal Pronouns, etc)? The KIDEVAL output with the database 
>> comparison only gives me the DSS total score.
>>
>> 2- In the CLAN manual it states:
>>
>> "Warning: MOR cannot distinguish between non-complementing infinitive 
>> structures, such as I stopped to play, which receives 3 points as secondary 
>> verb and infinitival complement structures, such as I had to go, which 
>> receive 5 points as secondary verbs. When the latter occurs, you must edit 
>> the output table to assign two more points."
>>
>> Was this adjustment made for all of the samples included in the KIDEVAL 
>> database?
>>
>> Thank you for your help!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Amy Wilder
>>
>>
>>
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