can FREQ create counts for combos of codes on same tier?

Tue Nov 8 14:11:56 UTC 2022

Leonid-

Yes, got it!  Thank you so much!

Michelle

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 6:37 PM Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Michelle,
>
> It appears that +c3 and +c7 options were never implemented to work
> together. Probably because no one ask for it before.
>
> I have changed FREQ to make +c3 and +c7 options work together as you would
> expect. Please get new version of CLAN and the command "freq +t*CHI +t%xqif
>  +s"$Info:*:* $FXN*" +c7 +c3 anctestv3.cha" should work correctly now.
>
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 16:57, Michelle Barton <mbarton at ncf.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Leonid,
>
> I have run the +c7 code you suggested, and it has worked to expand the
> wildcards as below:
>
> > freq +t*CHI +t%xqif  +s"$Info:*:* $FXN*" +c7 anctestv3.cha
> freq +t*CHI +t%xqif +s"$Info:*:* $FXN*" +c7 anctestv3.cha
> Mon Nov 07 16:46:31 2022
> freq (07-Oct-2022) is conducting analyses on:
>   ONLY dependent tiers matching: %XQIF;
> ****************************************
> From file <ANCtestv3.cha>
> Speaker: *CHI:
>   1 $Info:FACT:generic $FXN:Reask
>   2 $Info:FACT:specific $FXN:Build
>   1 $Info:FACT:specific $FXN:Cont
>   1 $Info:FACT:specific $FXN:Reask
> ------------------------------
>     4  Total number of different item types used
>     5  Total number of items (tokens)
> 0.800  Type/Token ratio
>     This TTR number was not calculated on the basis of %mor line forms.
>     If you want a TTR based on lemmas, run FREQ on the %mor line
>     with option: +sm;*,o%
>
>
> > BUT, this output is only giving pairs of codes that are adjacent to each
> other,
> and is missing to pairs where there is another code in between the two
> codes I am
> using.  These codes are on the dependent tiers for speaker lines 1 and 38:
> $Info:EXPLANATION:specific $FXN:Start and $Info:FACT:specific $FXN:start
> in the transcript I had sent in the original
> email). Both of these lines have $INI codes in between the two codes I am
> wanting to count.
>
> I saw thought maybe the +c3 switch would work to catch these other codes,
> but it did not work as I hoped (it read the 2 extra codes that were
> missing before, but did not expand the wildcards):
>
> freq +t*CHI +t%xqif  +s"$Info:*:* $FXN*" +c7 +c3 anctestv3.cha
> freq +t*CHI +t%xqif +s"$Info:*:* $FXN*" +c7 +c3 anctestv3.cha
> Mon Nov 07 16:51:49 2022
> freq (07-Oct-2022) is conducting analyses on:
>   ONLY dependent tiers matching: %XQIF;
> ****************************************
> From file <ANCtestv3.cha>
> Speaker: *CHI:
>   7 $Info:*:* $FXN*
> ------------------------------
>     1  Total number of different item types used
>     7  Total number of items (tokens)
> 0.143  Type/Token ratio
>     This TTR number was not calculated on the basis of %mor line forms.
>     If you want a TTR based on lemmas, run FREQ on the %mor line
>     with option: +sm;*,o%
>
>
> > Is there a way to do both - find the codes regardless of where they are
> on the tier
> AND expand the wildcards?
>
> Thank you,
> Michelle
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:28 PM Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Michelle,
>>
>> If you add +c7 option to freq command with wildcards, then you will get
>> the output you want.
>>
>>
>> Leonid.
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:22, Michelle Barton <mbarton at ncf.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have created a set of 4 $ codes for the child speaker.  I would like to
>> be able to use FREQ to get counts of all combos of two of these 4 schemes.
>> I can generate the counts of each individual $ code type, and I can
>> generate the counts for combos of codes IF I write out each type of code to
>> count (eg, how often $Info:FACT:specific was paired with $FXN:Build), but I
>> would like to be able to use wildcards to generate *all *the possible
>> combinations.  I have tried several, but no success (I get 0s for counts).
>>
>> *Is there a way to use wildcards to generate the counts of combinations
>> of codes on the dependent tier?*
>>
>> I have attached my tester transcript and the output from running
>> different attempts to get these counts (the command lines are in the output
>> files, along with my specific comments and questions as I walk through the
>> process I tried).
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Michelle
>>
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New College of Florida
Division of Social Sciences
5800 Bay Shore Road
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