(a) Emmett, where are you? (b) ChInUk Wawa map of the NW

terry glavin transmontanus at GULFISLANDS.COM
Thu Dec 3 18:15:47 UTC 1998


just two days ago i was headed south on a bumpy logging road with gerrard
peters (from skateen) and old ed thevarge (from darcy), on the way to
skookumchuck, and as we passed tenas lake, ed turned to me, really serious,
and asked: "you know how deep that lake is?" "how deep is it?" i asked him.
"it goes aaaaallll the way to the bottom," ed replied. gerrard's dad speaks
a good bit of chinook, but he's deaf, so there's a lot of shouting involved
just in the business of saying good morning, which is too bad.

tg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Cleven <ironmtn at BIGFOOT.COM>
To: CHINOOK at LINGUIST.LDC.UPENN.EDU <CHINOOK at LINGUIST.LDC.UPENN.EDU>
Date: 03 December 1998 01:18
Subject: Re: (a) Emmett, where are you? (b) ChInUk Wawa map of the NW


>At 12:56 AM 12/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>LhaXiyEm, na-tIlXEm,
>>
>>(a) Emmett, how did those photos from the Jargon Gathering come out?
>>
>>(b) As we've discussed several times, a collection of the Jargon
>>place-names in the NW would be good to put together.  I think you've
>>worked on this some, Jim?  And Luistxo in the Basque country is very
>>interested in displaying native-language maps on their website.
>>
>>If only as a very useful exercise, I'm interested in helping collect Wawa
>>place names and mapping them on a single map.  For me it'd be fun to pore
>>over ridiculously detailed maps, collecting the information.  (That's the
>>kind of fella I am.)  You might be very surprised at how many ChInUk Wawa
>>names you'll find, reaching pretty far inland.
>>
>>Here in Spokane County, we have the town of Tum Tum, for example.  And not
>>so far away, according to some cool free maps the US Forest Service was
>>giving out in Wilbur, WA, this summer, there's Skookum Puss Butte;
>>Klipchuck; and about 30 other names in an area the size of a county.
>
>OK - here's starters (above and beyond what's in Terry's book q.v.):
>
>Tenas Lake (near Pemberton BC)
>Eskom Mountain (near Lytton BC, just north of Stein Peak; given incorrectly
>on one OCR'd map as Askom Mountain; from "iskum")
>Ipsoot Mountain (just E. of Pemberton BC)
>Cayoosh Range, Cayoosh Creek (whether this is a bona fide Wawa word I no
>longer know; at one time I was pretty sure it was, though)
>Mount Skook Jim - headwaters of the Stein Valley; I think this is an OCR
>mistake on my map, and should be Skookum Jim, who was one of the
>co-discoverers of the Klondike Goldfield in 1897.
>Kanaka Mountain, Kanaka Bar, Kanaka Creek - the mountain and bar are near
>Boston Bar; Kanaka Creek is near Haney BC
>Boston Bar, China Bar (short for Bostonman Bar, Chinaman Bar)
>Spuzzum (from spatsum; again whether this is 'pure Wawa' or not is
>debatable; Spuzzum is nonetheless one of BC's most famous placenames....)
>
>Non-Chinook placenames are actually considerably more common in BC; I never
>did get around to fleshing out the native placenames part of my website
>because of the vastness of the proposition.....



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