Dave wrote: Similarly, we might want to focus on other less-obvious points of Jargon grammar, like when to express the object of a sentence & when not to. More on that later. Cheers & lhaXayam, --Dave Gitxsan and Nisgaa can make verbs that include the object x_'maa'y = mEkmEk ulali x_milk = mEkmEk milk Are you talking about ways to do that in CJ?