KIWA

vincent yann janilta at YAHOO.FR
Sun Jul 11 06:56:32 UTC 2004


Hello,

My dictionary of current (Mille Lacs, Minnesota)
Ojibwe (Nichols & Nyholm, U Minnesota P, 95) has
indeed 'giiwe : to go home, to return'.

Cheers, Yann

--- ted rowcliffe <tedrowcliffe at DCCNET.COM> a écrit :
> Hi All
>
> I remembered when I was secretary of the London
> branch of the Ontario Archaeological Society,
> the regional archaeologist Bill Fox edited a
> bulletin
> entitled KIWA. As fate would have it, Bill is now at
> Pacific Rim National Park and I asked him where the
> name came from.
>
> He said he took it from an old Ojibway dictionary
> and
> the meaning was "to return home"
>
> At 05:30 PM 7/10/2004 -0700, Leanne Riding wrote:
> >The Kiwa (I think officially designated a Creek) is
> near the head of the
> >Fraser River, on Hwy 16. Historically the area is
> allied with New
> >Caledonia, Fort George, and the Cariboo Goldfields,
> etc. That point is
> >just north of the headwaters of the Thompson River,
> so there were always a
> >lot of Shuswaps around. Before the 70's, there was
> also a connection with
> >the Columbia River (now blocked by a huge
> reservoir). If the name wasn't
> >originally a CJ placename, it has become
> interpreted as one.
> >
> >Here's a bit I picked up from the web which was
> interesting in terms of
> >the date:
> >
> >"Kiwa is Chinook for "crooked." Before 1915, the
> creek was called the
> >Little Shuswap River (Raush River was the Big
> Shuswap). ... References:
> >Canadian Permanent Committee on Geographical Names.
> British Columbia
> >representative: D.F. Pearson, director of surveys
> and mapping, B.C.
> >Ministry of Environment, Victoria."
> >
> >That was from:
> >James L. Swanson. "Kiwa Creek." Place Names in the
> Canadian Rockies. Web
> >page by Spiral Road - Digital Banff : Banff,
> Alberta, Canada. 2 September
> >2002.
> [http://www.spiralroad.com/sr/pn/k/kiwa_creek.html]
> >
> >I hope my Dad won't mind me quoting one of his
> emails:
> >
> >"There are quite a few bodies of water etc. up here
> with Chinook Jargon
> >names. the furthest east I have heard of is Mowitch
> (deer) Creek in northern
> >Jasper Park. Closer to Valemount is the Kiwa
> (crooked) River. In sothern
> >Wells Gray park is Canim (canoe) lake."
> >
> >
> >-- Leanne (http://timetemple.com)
> >
> >
> >
> >On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 01:55 , David
> Robertson wrote:
> >
> >>Where is Kiwa River?  A question sometimes good to
> ask is, is this really
> >>a Chinuk word?  And if so, was it bestowed by an
> idealistic forest ranger
> >>after CJ's heyday, or does it go way "back in the
> day"?
> >>
> >>--Dave R.
> >>
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