KIWA

[Leanne Riding]

It's interesting that both the CJ kiwa, "crooked" and the Ojibwe giiwe 
"to return" both refer to changing direction.

On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 11:56 , vincent yann wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My dictionary of current (Mille Lacs, Minnesota)
> Ojibwe (Nichols & Nyholm, U Minnesota P, 95) has
> indeed 'giiwe : to go home, to return'.
>
> Cheers, Yann
>
> --- ted rowcliffe <tedrowcliffe at DCCNET.COM> a écrit :
>> Hi All
>>
>> I remembered when I was secretary of the London
>> branch of the Ontario Archaeological Society,
>> the regional archaeologist Bill Fox edited a
>> bulletin
>> entitled KIWA. As fate would have it, Bill is now at
>> Pacific Rim National Park and I asked him where the
>> name came from.
>>
>> He said he took it from an old Ojibway dictionary
>> and
>> the meaning was "to return home"
>>
>> At 05:30 PM 7/10/2004 -0700, Leanne Riding wrote:
>>> The Kiwa (I think officially designated a Creek) is
>> near the head of the
>>> Fraser River, on Hwy 16. Historically the area is
>> allied with New
>>> Caledonia, Fort George, and the Cariboo Goldfields,
>> etc. That point is
>>> just north of the headwaters of the Thompson River,
>> so there were always a
>>> lot of Shuswaps around. Before the 70's, there was
>> also a connection with
>>> the Columbia River (now blocked by a huge
>> reservoir). If the name wasn't
>>> originally a CJ placename, it has become
>> interpreted as one.
>>>
>>> Here's a bit I picked up from the web which was
>> interesting in terms of
>>> the date:
>>>
>>> "Kiwa is Chinook for "crooked." Before 1915, the
>> creek was called the
>>> Little Shuswap River (Raush River was the Big
>> Shuswap). ... References:
>>> Canadian Permanent Committee on Geographical Names.
>> British Columbia
>>> representative: D.F. Pearson, director of surveys
>> and mapping, B.C.
>>> Ministry of Environment, Victoria."
>>>
>>> That was from:
>>> James L. Swanson. "Kiwa Creek." Place Names in the
>> Canadian Rockies. Web
>>> page by Spiral Road - Digital Banff : Banff,
>> Alberta, Canada. 2 September
>>> 2002.
>> [http://www.spiralroad.com/sr/pn/k/kiwa_creek.html]
>>>
>>> I hope my Dad won't mind me quoting one of his
>> emails:
>>>
>>> "There are quite a few bodies of water etc. up here
>> with Chinook Jargon
>>> names. the furthest east I have heard of is Mowitch
>> (deer) Creek in northern
>>> Jasper Park. Closer to Valemount is the Kiwa
>> (crooked) River. In sothern
>>> Wells Gray park is Canim (canoe) lake."
>>>

-- Leanne (http://timetemple.com)

>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 01:55 , David
>> Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where is Kiwa River?  A question sometimes good to
>> ask is, is this really
>>>> a Chinuk word?  And if so, was it bestowed by an
>> idealistic forest ranger
>>>> after CJ's heyday, or does it go way "back in the
>> day"?
>>>>
>>>> --Dave R.
>>>>
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