pipa-samEn

[Bruce, Colin]

I've been wondering if the maybe pipa-samEn is part of a longer phrase
like chEm-pipa-samEn?  Maybe the writer was referring to chum salmon but
chose a different shortening of the phrase.  I have nothing to back the
idea up though.  

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:29 AM
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Subject: pipa-samEn

Through the whole Fraser-Thompson-Okanagan region of BC wind dried
salmon was very common (and is still common in some areas like
Lillooet and Lytton) - know in St'at'imc as Ts'wan.

This product was crucial to the economy of the interior of BC because
it was a protable and tradable source of wealth.    Packing a few
hundred side of Ts'wan is not impossible.   The fish was also the
fundamental basis of the trade between the HBC and southern interior
first nations, with trade from a single community, Pavilion, able to
exceed 10 000 fish a year.

I have not come across the term paper salmon, though the St'at'imc
use the term 'pipa' for paper.

Bernard now living in exile in Victoria

Keith Thor Carlson wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I suspect it is a reference to wind dried salmon.
>
> Keith
>
> On Nov 3, 2004, at 12:00 PM, David Robertson wrote:
>
>> I don't remember for sure whether I've ever heard the phrase "paper
>> salmon"
>> in English or pipa-samEn in Chinook.  So I tried Googling it, and
got
>> no
>> hits at all (after filtering out all the office suppliers and
online
>> recipes).  Can anyone tell more about paper salmon?
>>
>> Masi,
>>
>> --Dave R
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:54:55 -0800, Tony Johnson
>> <Tony.Johnson at GRANDRONDE.ORG> wrote:
>>
>>> pipa-samEn (paper salmon) is a traditional food that you might
like to
>>> have to travel with, but you definantly would not hunt it.  Some
other
>>> folks may have comments on "paper salmon," but it is a means of
>>> preserving / preparing salmon.  Just a quick comment.
>>
>>
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