Kalakala suomi?

[E. Murphy]

Does "kalakala" mean any specific type of  bird? Is it always a flying bird?

-Elizabeth

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Subject: Re: Kalakala suomi?


> http://www.kalakala.org/history/timeline.html
>
> Named "flying bird" according to this article.
>
> --- Francisc Czobor <fericzobor at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
>> In fact, the Finnish word for "fish" is kala (a word
>> having cognates in all the other Finno-Ugrian
>> languages, for instance Estonian kala, Hungarian
>> hal), thus Kalakala would be "fish-fish" (I don't
>> know what should this mean in Finnish, because this
>> language, as far as I know, doesn't use
>> reduplication for plural formation or other
>> functions).
>>   Anyway, in Seattle is much more probable for
>> "Kalakala" to be CJ rather than Finnish.
>>
>>   Francisc
>>
>> Ros' Haruo <rosharuo at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>   I was sitting at the Seattle Esperanto Society
>> booth at the Fremont Fair all weekend. Sunday
>> morning, the next-door booth (an Albertson's
>> sweepstakes designed to collect names for their
>> junkmail lists) was manned by a woman ;-) who saw my
>> "Kalakala" coffee cup and said "that's Finnish". I
>> said, "No, it's Chinook Jargon, it's a local word
>> from around here." She got quite excited and kept
>> telling me that both the word "Kalakala" and the
>> ferryboat were of Finnish origin. Apparently it's
>> Finnish for "fish". Anybody know whether the boat is
>> in fact named "Kalakala" in CJ or in Finnish, and
>> whether it was built by Finns? We both agreed that,
>> whatever the etymology, it's misaccented in English,
>> should have initial accent in Finnish, and I think
>> either initial or penultimate in the Wawa.
>>
>> lilEnd
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