Kiksht

[David D Robertson]

ave,

I tried to post the following a month ago but I don't think it ever
appeared, did it?

Maybe you can cut and paste, then push the right buttons to make it so? :)

Thanks,

Jim

jlarmagost at verizon.net

-----Original Message-----
From: jlarmagost [mailto:jlarmagost at verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:18 PM
To: Chinook Studies List
Subject: Kiksht


The old pros will probably grind their teeth over this, but I've got to ask.

Rob Moore's posting to this list on 1/31/2000 gives the (Lower) Chinook
dialects as Clatsop and Shoalwater and the Upper Chinook varieties as
Kathlamet and Kiksht, where Kiksht is the dialect-cluster including
Clackamas on the Willamette and all the varieties higher up the Columbia
than Kathlamet).

On the other hand, the online version of Ethnologue, at
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=92410, shows the two
branches of Chinookan as (Lower) Chinook and Wasco-Wishram (AKA Upper
Chinook). (Lower) Chinook is said to have three dialects: Klatsop (Tlatsop),
Clackama and Kiksht.

My question is why Ethnologue, which is supposed to be highly respected, is
at such variance. Did somebody once use "Kiksht" as another name for
Shoalwater? Did somebody once think that Clackama(s), despite its outlying
location, is nonetheless most closely related linguistically to Clatsop and
Shoalwater?

My head is spinning!

Jim

jlarmagost at verizon.net

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