[Corpora-List] Against the reviewer mediation stage
Martin Reynaert
reynaert at uvt.nl
Fri May 29 11:42:29 UTC 2009
Dear German,
As a student of lapsology (Carl James), I would appreciate if you would
clarify what you intended to write: 'thread', 'threat' or 'treat'.
Contextually I would think the first, pragmatically I guess the other
two might be possible ;0)
Cheers,
Martin Reynaert
ILK
TiCC
Tilburg University
German Rigau wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> Thanks for opening this new conversation threat ... ;-)
>
> I also believe that the "review mediation phase" is improving the
> overall quality of the reviewing process. Obviously, this process can
> always be improved (more time, need to reach a consensus, different
> scoring schemas among area-chairs, etc.)
>
> However, it would be nice to see the real effect of this phase with
> respect the original scoring. Only a few changes? Many changes? Changes
> not in the scoring but on the reviews? ... Where is the effect of this
> phase reported?
>
> Best,
>
> German
>
>
> Diana Santos wrote:
>
>>Sorry Adam, not only I do not share it, as I am an enthusiast about this.
>>
>>This is the only effective way to prevent people doing dishonest,
>>careless or uninformed reviews and getting away with it.
>>
>>Except if one accepts the principle of Signed Reviews
>>(http://www.linguateca.pt/Diana/SignedReviews.html), but this may have
>>other consequences.
>>
>>I suggest you read
>>Chubin, D. R. & E. J. Hackett. /Peerless Science, Peer Review and U.S.
>>Science Policy/. New York, State University of New York Press. 1990.
>>for a debate and some suggestions.
>>For those of you who read Portuguese, I have a page on these issues as
>>well, with some further references:
>>http://www.linguateca.pt/Diana/avalpubl.html
>>Best,
>>Diana
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* corpora-bounces at uib.no [mailto:corpora-bounces at uib.no] *On
>> Behalf Of *Adam Kilgarriff
>> *Sent:* 29. mai 2009 10:47
>> *To:* corpora at uib.no
>> *Subject:* [Corpora-List] Against the reviewer mediation stage
>>
>> Corpora readers,
>>
>> Do any of you share my feeling about the 'review mediation phase'?
>>
>> I do reviewing partly out of duty and partly because it's a way of
>> making sure I read closely at least one arbitrary subset of new
>> work in my area - and sometimes I find out about really
>> interesting work in this way. I do like the innovation of being
>> able to bid for the papers you actively want to review.
>>
>> But an innovation I don't like is the 'review mediation process',
>> as now widely used by ACL and EMNLP where, if two reviewers
>> disagree, they are expected to contribute to a discussion where
>> they see if they can reconcile their differences. The image is
>> very nice - academics sitting down to sort out their differences
>> etc., but the reality is (for me) quite different. I reviewed the
>> paper maybe three weeks ago and (at this frenetic time of year)
>> have probably reviewed half a dozen other papers between times.
>> To make a considered comment, I need to take my time to
>> re-acquaint myself with the paper, remind myself of what I said in
>> my review, give careful thought to the other reviewers' comments,
>> and work out how to respond, which involves delicate processes
>> (with both interpersonal and intellectual components) of standing
>> up for my considered opinion while giving due heed to what others
>> have said (and being polite even if I think the other person's
>> opinion is rubbish - no anonymity here). One good thing about
>> initial reviewing is that you can do it in your own time. But
>> that's not true for review mediation, because there are only two
>> or three days allocated to that phase. And here I am expected to
>> devote as much time again to it as I did to the original version,
>> and there's nothing in it for me, as I've already read it so I
>> won't find any new ideas.
>>
>> I think the reviewer mediation phase should be scrapped. Either
>> use maths to merge reviewers' scores, or if the chair thinks that
>> would not get a good result in a particular case, let him/her read
>> and decide. That's his/her job.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> --
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>> Adam Kilgarriff
>> http://www.kilgarriff.co.uk
>> Lexical Computing Ltd http://www.sketchengine.co.uk
>> Lexicography MasterClass Ltd http://www.lexmasterclass.com
>> Universities of Leeds and Sussex adam at lexmasterclass.com
>> <mailto:adam at lexmasterclass.com>
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