[Corpora-List] Proposal for initiating a global non continentalArabic Language Academy

Bayan Shawar bshawar at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 17 08:04:16 UTC 2009


Dear Hamed,
  This is a great idea, i will be pleased to be a member. If you need our Cvs or anything else, please let me know.

Bayan Abu Shawar,

Assistant professor,
Arab Open Univeristy
Amman-Jordan


--- On Tue, 17/11/09, El-Haj, Mahmoud <melhaj at essex.ac.uk> wrote:

> From: El-Haj, Mahmoud <melhaj at essex.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] Proposal for initiating a global non continentalArabic Language Academy
> To: "'Waleed Oransa'" <woransa at gmail.com>, "'Hamed Al-Suhli'" <hamed at e3rab.com>
> Cc: "'corpora at uib.no'" <corpora at uib.no>
> Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 1:53
> Dear Hamed,
> 
> The proposal sounds rather interesting, I will be happy to
> assist as a member.
> But I just want to mention that there are many non-Arab
> non-Muslim researchers who are interested in the Arabic
> Language. And many of them indeed participated in creating
> tools to assist and advance the processing of this
> language.
> I agree that this academy should be toward Arabic
> computational linguistics but I also agree with Oliver and
> Tony to make this academy open to everybody who can speak
> Arabic and others who can share their experiences. Arabic
> shares characteristics with other living languages, which
> could be very helpful as Arabic NLP still in it's
> preliminary phases comparing to others.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mahmoud EL-Haj
> 
> School of Computer Science and Electronic Engineering.
> University of Essex.
> Colchester CO4 3SQ, United Kingdom.
> URL: http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~melhaj/
> 
> 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: corpora-bounces at uib.no
> [mailto:corpora-bounces at uib.no]
> On Behalf Of Waleed Oransa
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:58 PM
> To: Hamed Al-Suhli
> Cc: corpora at uib.no
> Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] Proposal for initiating a
> global non continentalArabic Language Academy
> 
> Hello Hamed,
> 
> This is great idea if we could implement it properly. First
> this need
> a fund, regular meeting, process and may be the meetings
> can be done
> most of time online with one or two yearly conference.
> 
> If we can resolve the fund issue, I expect this to be like
> the way the
> Islamic Research Council (IRC) of Al-Azhar established in
> its early
> days where the membership was open to all respectable
> scholars from
> any Muslim country. This one of the reason it was really
> scientific
> and independent and successful. The always focus on one
> issue, ask
> participants to prepare a research in this issue and then
> meet in a
> conference to discuss these research and convince each
> other with the
> solution or opinion (Fatwa) then they vote. If the voting
> results was
> "consensus" they close the issue and get a new one on
> table, othewise
> they continue doing more research. I think this will be a
> useful case
> study although it has a different focus, Also it may need
> to
> improvement to allow young and public review and
> participants (to some
> degree).
> 
> Regarding the membership and name of this organization, I
> would
> suggest it to be named "The International Academy of Arabic
> Language"
> and let it open to people who are excellent in Arabic and
> who really
> motivated to let Arabic back to be the language of science,
> education
> and culture.
> 
> Let's us know the steps needed to establish it.
> 
> Waleed
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Hamed Al-Suhli <hamed at e3rab.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Tony,
> > Salam,
> >
> > You have a point, but As you know there is no Arabic
> Language speaker but
> > there are persons who could understand Arabic language
> and write it, most of
> > them are Arabs whome are not necessarily Muslims, but
> the non Muslim Arabs
> > are less than non Arabs Muslims who can understand
> Arabic, and all Muslims
> > consider Arabic as central Language for understand
> Islam.
> > Also non Muslim Arabs have Islamic culture, so they
> don't have essential
> > problems with Islamic umbrella "Lebanon is a member of
> OIC oic-oic.org".
> >
> > in short word Standard Arabic "ALfussha" is more
> important to non Arabic
> > Muslims than non Muslims Arabs.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Mcenery, Tony
> > <eiaamme at exchange.lancs.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Hamed,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> An interesting idea - I think most people would
> certainly welcome the
> >> development of a trans-national language academy
> for a trans-national
> >> language. But would it not be better if your goal
> was to build an academy
> >> for all speakers of Arabic, whether they are
> Muslim or not? I think that
> >> would be quite in line with the finest historical
> examples of inclusiveness
> >> in scholarship in the Arabic speaking world.
> Best,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: corpora-bounces at uib.no
> [mailto:corpora-bounces at uib.no]
> On Behalf Of
> >> Hamed Al-Suhli
> >> Sent: 16 November 2009 13:43
> >> To: linguist at linguistlist.org;
> elsnet-arabic at elsnet.org;
> corpora at uib.no
> >> Subject: [Corpora-List] Proposal for initiating a
> global non
> >> continentalArabic Language Academy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> English version:
> >> Proposal to initiate a non government or National
> organization controlled
> >> Islamic universal Academy for Arabic language,
> centralized by the Idea of
> >> Arabic is for all muslims not only Arabs.
> >> the current Arabic Language academies are
> controlled by every countries
> >> government, so they have all the problems of the
> Arabic politics systems,
> >> also used by every government for Ideological
> political purposes which
> >> resulted at loosing there scientific academic
> objectives.
> >> most of these academies are very far from the
> technical developement, and
> >> the needs of terms localization thus the new
> horizons of computational
> >> linguistics research
> >>
> >> this information is intended for Arabic
> Linguistics, thou this is a brief
> >> outlines of the previous Arabic message.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hamed Al-Suhli
> >> http://e3rab.com
> >>
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> > http://e3rab.com
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