[Corpora-List] Quotable Statistics on Unstructured Data on the WWW

Rich Cooper rich at englishlogickernel.com
Fri Dec 6 19:21:13 UTC 2013


I agree; people miss most of what passes in front
of us.  The real world has such wide bandwidth and
our thought processes are so slow and narrow that
only skeletal models of reality have any chance to
be used in real time.  Deeper thinking takes a
long time and lots of concentration.  Therefore it
doesn't occur in real time.  

-Rich

Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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Unstructured Data on the WWW

On 6 Dec 2013, at 17:10, Stefan Bordag
<bordag at exb.de> wrote:
> Even using the best full text capable search
engine you are never guaranteed
> to get the one information you were looking for,
and only that information.

On 12/6/2013 12:51 PM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
> As someone who worked in R&D and post-sales
support of the world's best
> free text search engines (3rip and Trip) for
nearly three decades
> I dispute that claim.

I agree with everybody's complaints about every
existing search
and query system -- whatever it may be called.

But I also believe that even intelligent humans
who are familiar with
the subject matter miss or misinterpret a huge
amount of relevant and
even critical material.

As evidence, just look at the failures "to connect
the dots" by agencies
that have the best computing resources and highly
trained personnel.
After a disaster, "post mortems" (literally) can
get better answers
-- primarily because they have a better idea of
what to look for.

I would not call human retrieval "the gold
standard".  Trained humans
with good tools might reach a "copper standard".
But I believe that
much more R & D is needed to develop tools that
can enable trained
humans to reach a "silver standard".

John

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