[Corpora-List] "Tajweed" in English dictionaries and corpora

[Krishnamurthy, Ramesh]

#1 we cannot say that any word "ought to be in a corpus".

A reference corpus (which can never be *completely* comprehensive,

especially for a global language like English) contains the words

contained in the texts which were selected. Many texts will have

been omitted (for logistical reasons) or excluded (for various reasons,

including ideology or unintentional bias).



#2 we can discuss which words belong in a dictionary, and which

in an encyclopedia (if you accept that there is a difference).



#3 No dictionary contains all the words of a language. Lexicographers,

editors, and publishing houses are responsible for inclusion policies and decisions.



#4 'Where do you suggest they go?' - an encyclopedia, or in the modern era,

the internet.



#5 This is not about 'purging dictionaries of their cultural impurities'.

Such emotive attitudes are unhelpful and misleading.



best wishes



Ramesh Krishnamurthy

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:12:51 -0500
From: Patrick Juola <pjuola at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] "Tajweed" in English dictionaries and
corpora
To: Otto Lassen <otto at lassen.mail.dk>
Cc: CORPORA discussion forum corpora at uib.no<mailto:corpora at uib.no>

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On Feb 28, 2013, at 3:24 PM, "Otto Lassen" <otto at lassen.mail.dk> wrote:

> If "Tajweed" should be in English dictionaries and corpora then there
> are more islam words which ought to be in English dictionaries and corpora.
> E.g. qiyas - argument by analogy, not by aristote logic. And ijma, ijtihad, figh.
> Does Eric Atwell want all islamic words to included in english?
>

Well, the point of dictionary is to be useful. If someone encounters the word "qiyas" and doesn't know what it means, where do you suggest they go? After you've purged dictionaries of their cultural impurities, what's left beyond Beowulf?


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