A pill for learning Chinese?

Wed Jun 4 18:36:04 UTC 2014

What medication was it?
Elizabeth
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Elizabeth C. Scheyder, Ph.D., P.E.
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On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Nancy Hornberger <nancyh at gse.upenn.edu> wrote:

> Although the discussion has moved on to other drugs, a friend of a friend of mine did actually try the pill alleged to improve language learning skills and said it helped on the very short term  (if I remember correctly).
> Nancy
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> On 6/4/14, 4:43 PM, Larry Selinker wrote:
>> funny stuff.   i was at u mich when some of it was going on ("we had a bunch of drunks in our lab for a year, and ...". 
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>> one thing i remember was that a group of grad students were supporting themselves out of these grants, so there was some value in the effort. 
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>> there were later studies using other drugs, weed for sure was one.  one of the grad students at the time who took part in the later studies was BILL ACTON, now in vancouver and maybe the world's best expert at pronunciation changes (and non-changes) in L2 pronunciation.  if anyone is serious about this, i suggest you privately contact him: william.acton at twu.ca.  i'm ccing this to him to give him a heads up.
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>> anyways, i always thought the reports of what went on were great fun.
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>> Best, 
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>> Cheers, 
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>> Larry
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>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Daryl Gordon <dgordon at adelphi.edu> wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing the original article!  That study is almost folklore in applied linguistics, but I'd never seen the original article.  I was chuckling at imagining all those U Michigan college students signing up for this study!
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>> Daryl 
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>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Elizabeth Scheyder <scheydec at sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>> Yes, I remember reading that in Rod Ellis’ “Second Language Acquisition”, and my students always find it amusing (as an anecdote, not a classroom practice!)
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>> Here’s Guiora’s article:
>> http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/34041/0000318.pdf?sequence=1
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>> YMMV,
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>> SAS Computing, University of Pennsylvania
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>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:31 AM, anne marie devlin <anne_mariedevlin at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Dear Dick
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>> > Don't know anything about the pill, but there was a study carried out in the early 1970s by Guiora (I think) that highlighted the benefits of alcohol to SLA.
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>> > Reminds me of the Ogden Nash poem:
>> > Candy is dandy
>> > But liquor is quicker
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>> > All the best
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>> > Anne Marie
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>> > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:35:35 +0100
>> > > From: r.hudson at ucl.ac.uk
>> > > To: edling at bunner.geol.lu.se
>> > > Subject: [Edling] A pill for learning Chinese?
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>> > > Dear Colleague,
>> > > Anyone know about this suggestion that drugs can help language-learning?
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>> > > http://www.britac.ac.uk/events/2014/Are_drugs_the_answer_to_learning_a_language.cfm
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>> Larry
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