[Edling] Edling Digest, Vol 38, Issue 3

Thu Apr 8 18:33:07 UTC 2021

English as the language of science.  I think the main lesson is the value
of a good editor-mentor,
Bernard

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>    1. Re:  English is the language of science ? but precision is
>       tough as a non-native speaker (Margaret van Naerssen)
>    2. Re:  English is the language of science ? but precision is
>       tough as a non-native speaker (Francis M. Hult)
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> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 13:29:41 -0400
> From: Margaret van Naerssen <margaret.vannaerssen at gmail.com>
> To: Educational Linguistics List <edling at lists.mail.umbc.edu>
> Cc: "Francis M. Hult" <fmhult at umbc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Edling]  English is the language of science ? but
>         precision is tough as a non-native speaker
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> The importance of scientists being able to express themselves
> effectively in English
> is not a new concern. The field of English for Specific Purposes began with
> the need
> for scientists and science students who needed to access scientific journal
> written in
> and for them to be able to contribute to such journals--and eventually
> attend conferences
> in their fields.  I have worked in this area for many years and published
> articles in this area.
>
> Unfortunately, I wasn't able to access the Nature article that was posted
> on Edling as the journal
> required cookies for access--and I was not willing to open up my computer
> to having cookies attached
> just to see the article--Especially since the article sounds like it is
> introducing new ideas about
> the long-known importance of English in science and technology. But perhaps
> I'm wrong--I would
> be interested in the article.
>
> A number of applied linguists have written in this area. Here is
> information about one online Overview.
> One of the Professional Communities in  TESOL International is the English
> for Specific Purposes
> Interest Section. Its home page is under *MyTESOL*.
>
> https://my.tesol.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=4be1f546-1b6a-46f0-8070-74576e6704cb
> Under the Statement of Purpose is a link to a Power Point developed by some
> ESP IS members.:
> *English for Specific Purposes: **An Overview **for Practitioners and Clie*
> nts
> *(*Kevin Knight, Anne E. Lomperis, Margaret van Naerssen, and Kay
> Westerfield).
> Margaret van Naerssen
>
> Ooops I have just received a message from TESOL that TESOL is upgrading it
> technology
> from 12 - 14 April. During that period MyTESOL will not be accessible. But
> i hope you will check
> out the link and view the Power Point.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 6:37 AM Francis M. Hult via Edling <
> edling at lists.mail.umbc.edu> wrote:
>
> > Nature
> >
> > English is the language of science ? but precision is tough as a
> > non-native speaker
> >
> > English is the international language of science, for better or for
> worse,
> > but most of the world?s scientists speak it as a second language. We
> > shoulder an extra career challenge: not only must we gain command of our
> > science, but we must also be able to write to professional standards in a
> > foreign language to communicate that science.
> >
> > Full story:
> > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00899-y
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 13:44:19 -0400
> From: "Francis M. Hult" <fmhult at umbc.edu>
> To: Educational Linguistics List <edling at lists.mail.umbc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Edling]  English is the language of science ? but
>         precision is tough as a non-native speaker
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>  I definitely didn't share it because I agree with the premise.  ?  I did
> find it interesting to see the language ideologies being reproduced by a
> scientist under the prestigious banner of *Nature*.  It's a glimpse of the
> emic perspectives on language by those working in STEM.  Suresh Canagarajah
> and colleagues have written some great pieces on this recently:
>
> hhttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/modl.12464
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13670050.2020.1768210
>
> It makes me think about how as a field we might both draw attention to the
> sociopolitical implications of equity in knowledge production and knowledge
> access that follow from the dominance of English in STEM while also
> decentering the dominant language ideologies of our own field (applied
> linguistics or ESP/EMI specifically) in ways that respect the agency and
> autonomy of STEM scholars.
>
> Best,
> Francis
>
> --
> *Francis M. Hult, PhD, FRGS* | Professor
> Department of Education
> University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC)
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> Editor, Educational Linguistics Book Series
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> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 1:29 PM Margaret van Naerssen <
> margaret.vannaerssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The importance of scientists being able to express themselves
> > effectively in English
> > is not a new concern. The field of English for Specific Purposes began
> > with the need
> > for scientists and science students who needed to access scientific
> > journal written in
> > and for them to be able to contribute to such journals--and eventually
> > attend conferences
> > in their fields.  I have worked in this area for many years and published
> > articles in this area.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I wasn't able to access the Nature article that was posted
> > on Edling as the journal
> > required cookies for access--and I was not willing to open up my computer
> > to having cookies attached
> > just to see the article--Especially since the article sounds like it is
> > introducing new ideas about
> > the long-known importance of English in science and technology. But
> > perhaps I'm wrong--I would
> > be interested in the article.
> >
> > A number of applied linguists have written in this area. Here is
> > information about one online Overview.
> > One of the Professional Communities in  TESOL International is the
> English
> > for Specific Purposes
> > Interest Section. Its home page is under *MyTESOL*.
> >
> >
> https://my.tesol.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=4be1f546-1b6a-46f0-8070-74576e6704cb
> > Under the Statement of Purpose is a link to a Power Point developed by
> > some ESP IS members.:
> > *English for Specific Purposes: **An Overview **for Practitioners and
> > Clie*nts
> > *(*Kevin Knight, Anne E. Lomperis, Margaret van Naerssen, and Kay
> > Westerfield).
> > Margaret van Naerssen
> >
> > Ooops I have just received a message from TESOL that TESOL is upgrading
> > it technology
> > from 12 - 14 April. During that period MyTESOL will not be accessible.
> But
> > i hope you will check
> > out the link and view the Power Point.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 6:37 AM Francis M. Hult via Edling <
> > edling at lists.mail.umbc.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Nature
> >>
> >> English is the language of science ? but precision is tough as a
> >> non-native speaker
> >>
> >> English is the international language of science, for better or for
> >> worse, but most of the world?s scientists speak it as a second
> language. We
> >> shoulder an extra career challenge: not only must we gain command of our
> >> science, but we must also be able to write to professional standards in
> a
> >> foreign language to communicate that science.
> >>
> >> Full story:
> >> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00899-y
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Edling mailing list
> >> Edling at lists.mail.umbc.edu
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> >
> >
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Spolsky, B. (2021). *Rethinking language policy*. Edinburgh: Edinburgh
University Press.

Hult, F. M., & Spolsky, B. (Eds.). (2021). *Handbook of Educational
Linguistics* (Second edition ed.). Oxford: Blackwell.

 Lee, H., & Spolsky, B. (Eds.). (2021). *Localizing Global English: Asian
perspectives and practices*. London: Routledge.

Lo Bianco, Joseph, & Spolsky, Bernard (Eds.). (2024). *Research in Language
Policy and Management*. New York and London: Bloomsbury Academic.
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