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[Henry Szymonik]

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Subject: ELL: Re: Waiver [please disregard previous version; it wasn't
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	      > I can not say why it is almost solely white people doing this,
                but don't
		> you think one might make note of it?

		> It is part of white religious culture in my opinion to do
                  this.  Why is
		  > that such a leap in logic.
		  > But for me to point it out is racist?

		  This is such a basic root of racism, I'm surprised you don't
		  recognize it.

		  White racists like the KKK will point out that the fact that
		  blacks in the
		  U.S.have higher unemployment rates and lower educational
		  levels than whites
		  shows that black are lazier and stupider than whites.  The
		  same arguement
		  is used for Native Americans.  This without looking at the
		  reasons why
		  these groups in general are less well off.

		  My grandparents lived in downtown Hartford during the 60's
		  riots.  All the
		  people they saw rioting were black.  From that time until
		  their deaths, they
		  always saw blacks as violent people to be avoided.  Was this
		  appropriate?

		  Many say that Jews are "only interested in money."  But it
		  is not an ethnic
		  trait, merely a negative stereotype based on historical
		  circumstances that
		  forced many Jews to work in finance in medieval Europe.

		  In Los Angeles' predominantly black neighborhoods, many if
		  not most of
		  the corner groceries are owned and run by Koreans.  Many
		  blacks complain
		  that the Koreans are rude to them and charge exorbitant
		  prices.  During the
		  LA riots many of these stores were destroyed by rioters.
		  For many, these
		  Korean
		  store owners were the only Koreans they knew.  Is right,
		  therefore, for them
		  to
		  say,"Koreans are rude and money-grubbing"?

		  How many white Christians are in the U.S.?  Even if only
		  half of the U.S.'
		  white population is Christian, that means 100,000,000.   And
		  how many white
		  Christians have you dealt with in Thailand?  Yes, I think
		  it's a huge leap
		  to assign
		  what you see in the missionaries you deal with to the entire
		  white
		  population.
		  Perhaps you should look at the missionary groups you
		  criticize.  Perhaps
		  you haven't seen any black/Hispanic/Native American
		  missionaries because
		  the groups are themselves racist and don't allow such
		  missionaries.  This
		  would have nothing to do with the simple fact that they are
		  white, only with
		  the fact that they are racist.

		  "white religious culture"?   Amazing how you've created this
		  monolith.
		  As someone who has gone from being Catholic to a
		  fundamentalist,
		  born-again Christian to an Atheist, and experienced about a
		  dozen
		  other denominations as well as Buddhism and Judaism, I know
		  that
		  "white religious culture" is much more varied than you seem
		  to think
		  it is.  Of what religious persuation are you, if any?

		  There is no "white" or "Christian" monopoly on
		  religious-justified
		  violence.  Islam was for the most part spread in the Middle
		  East
		  through conquest.  Look at the recent razing of the Muslim
		  mosque
		  in India by Hindu radicals.

		  > Isn't it odd that in the White dominated west, there is
                    little venue for
		    > addressing missionary abuses and the missionaries in
                    most cases happen
		    > to be white and come from the west?

		    "White dominated West"  As opposed to the "Asian dominated
		    Orient" or
		    the "Arab dominated Middle East" or "Thai dominated
		    Thailand"? The West
		    [and I'll assume you're talking about U.S./Canada and
		    Western Europe]
		    is "dominated" by whites because the vast majority of its
		    population is
		    white.
		    It is a simple fact of human nature, not race, that
		    majorities tend to be in
		    power.




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