E-Prime 2.0 Data Features

[Sudevan, Padmanabhan]

I agree -- I started reading messages that seemed vaguely familiar, and
discovered that these were from early June to late June, actually.
Perhaps someone can correct this.

Sudevan


P Sudevan
Professor of Psychology
Chair, Faculty Sena
University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point


-----Original Message-----
From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On
Behalf Of Jordan Bigio
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 2:45 PM
To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org
Subject: RE: E-Prime 2.0 Data Features

Hey listserv,
The listserv is screwing up a bit. I keep getting messages from late
June 
that I have already received. Don't know if someone can look into this, 
whoever the administrator is. Just wanted to put the word out, as I'm
sure 
I'm not the only one getting these backlogged messages.

Jordan

At 09:54 PM 6/29/2005 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello Brandon,
>
>There are a few practical issues about E-DataAid that could be
improved:
>
>1) E-DataAid can become very sloooow when using filters. Especially
when 
>used in combination with the analysis option.
>
>2) When exporting analysis tables to SPSS I always have to rename
column 
>names. The latest version of SPSS is somewhat improved on the maximum 
>allowed variable name, but dashes are just not allowed and filtered
out. 
>This is especially a problem when numbers are part of the name. (I.e. 
>Total.ACC-11-1 will become Total.ACC111)
>
>3) I know a lot of researchers who are using the analysis option to
create 
>a 'case' based table for SPSS. That is: all relevant data of an
experiment 
>is collected on one line. The problem is that the content of the table
can 
>only be based on numerical values, not string values. I know that this
is 
>required for performing statistical calculations, but this limitation
also 
>holds if the table is designed in such a way that each cell is derived 
>from a single value. Our current workaround is to encode each relevant 
>string value with a corresponding numerical value and store this along 
>with all other attributes. For example: a typed response character can
be 
>translated at runtime to a unique numerical value by using inline
script. 
>Offline translation of such data is also possible by using excel and 
>copying and pasting columns.
>
>Let me finish with a compliment: E-Merge and E-DataAid are
straightforward 
>but powerful utilities, which do exactly what they claim: provide an
easy 
>mechanism to prepare datasets for further analysis. I also like the 
>annotation option, which allows me to track any manual changes in the
data.
>
>kind regards,
>Paul Groot
>Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
>
>
>
>>From: Brandon Cernicky <brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com>
>>To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org
>>Subject: E-Prime 2.0 Data Features
>>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:06:05 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>The last couple weeks had a number of threads in
>>relation to data handling in E-Prime.  The recent
>>E-Prime 2.0 Feature Survey placed its emphasis on many
>>of the design and implementation features and did not
>>focus on any data handling improvements for E-Merge
>>and E-DataAid.
>>
>>Please feel free to discuss any items you would like
>>to see for E-Prime 2.0 in regards to E-Merge and
>>E-DataAid.
>>
>>Improvements to export in general?
>>Improvements to export to Excel?
>>Improvements to export to SPSS?
>>Improvements to export to XML?
>>
>>PST is certainly not going to try to reinvent the
>>stats wheel and understand there are many stats
>>packages available and exporting to them is intended.
>>Are there any areas where E-Merge or E-DataAid could
>>be improved to make it so that bouncing in-between
>>packages would be reduced?
>>
>>
>>-Brandon
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Brandon S. Cernicky
>>Senior Software Engineer
>>Psychology Software Tools
>>
>>
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Jordan D. Bigio, B.A.
Project Coordinator
Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory
Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders
Northwestern University
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Phone: 847-491-3647