External application to call a series of .ebs2 files?

liwenna liwenna at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 23:36:54 UTC 2009


Thank you Rick!

I just came home from a friends wedding (why am I checking this e-
prime group in the middle of the night? - beats me...) I'll definately
check out the virtualbox!
I see that we have some common grounds actually... for my graduation
research I attempted a modifiied replication of Mark van Vugt's ' male
warrior hypothesis' experiment, which, unfortunately, wasn't all that
succesfull. On the topic of this group: it was a nice e-prime design,
wherein we tried to let subjects believe that there were co-players
while there actually where none.
I'll let you know when I have succes with virtualbox.

As for now, sleep well o/

liwenna


>
> As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a program
> called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org) for *free* from Sun which does
> the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy but I
> didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a legal
> Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from your univ.
>
> I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell Virtualbox to access
> the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one time I did,
> the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the ones I used
> previously)--I got them fromhttp://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the HASP HL ones
> I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on whether you use
> an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an option).
>
> The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this regard, as
> 'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went so far as
> to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> install--even though its running natively and is as legitimate a version
> of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly has made me
> keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance presents
> itself.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> liwenna wrote:
> > Hello Frank,
>
> > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you could try the
> > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3 scripts, and
> > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need to figure
> > out the language... My guess is that if you get the program to run
> > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as said, ICT
> > guys won't let me.  At home I also can't do that as I am the proud
> > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain (and yes
> > I should get myself some parallels).
>
> > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted first thing
> > on monday!
>
> > Sincerely,
>
> > liwenna.
>
> > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Liwenna,
>
> >> Thanks for your message.  Re: having autoit automatically insert
> >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that I think about
> >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try something like the
> >> following:
>
> >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box at the start
> >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected .ebs2 files
> >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in one of their
> >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") .  The next part
> >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session values) is
> >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the following:
>
> >> In the current code, there are lines that include (something like)
> >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell autoit to
> >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply providing
> >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my current code with
> >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session number collected
> >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).  You may
> >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box appears, then
> >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the input box, then
> >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code).  I know it sounds silly,
> >> but it might actually work...
>
> >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very) late tonight,
> >> then send you a code file if I figure it out...  For now, you can
> >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my personal
> >> website: [www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3]  -- this version
> >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined sequence (after
> >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).
>
> >> Hope that helps!
>
> >> Best,
> >> Frank
>
> >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> It is like magic!!!
> >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests. Well... almost
> >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am trying to get that
> >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my
> >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little programs like
> >>> this.
> >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject and session
> >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface wherein you
> >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole everything
> >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys informed if
> >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if you, Frank, had
> >>> allready tried something similar?
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> liwenna
> >>> On Mar 16, 9:00 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Frank,
> >>>> Wow, this looks really cool, thanks very much for taking on the
> >>>> assignment and writing back.  Looks like it will be worth my time to
> >>>> look into AutoIt further, and continue recommending it to others.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> >>>> At 3/14/2009 02:21 AM Saturday, you wrote:
> >>>>> David,
> >>>>> Thanks very much for your suggestion!  I've created a script for this
> >>>>> purpose in Autoit (it works very well).  I don't know how to attach a
> >>>>> file in this window, so please feel free to download it from my
> >>>>> personal website (see link below), and share.  In the .zip file, I
> >>>>> have included the Autoit script file, a compiled version, and a
> >>>>> basic .txt instruction file.
> >>>>>http://www.frankbosco.com/call_ebs.zip
> >>>>> All the best,
> >>>>> Frank
> >>>>> On Mar 13, 10:47 am, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>> Frank,
> >>>>>> This question has come up before (e.g.,
> >>>>> seehttp://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx), and I keep
> >>>>>> suggesting AutoIt
> >>>>>> (<http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3>http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3
> >>>>>> ).  So far no one has reported back on this, and I never have time to
> >>>>>> try it myself.  Perhaps you could give that a try and let us all know
> >>>>>> how it works.
> >>>>>> Other than that, you might try a good old DOS-style batch
> >>>>>> file.  Also, someone once suggested (sorry, I do not have the link)
> >>>>>> using links in a .pdf to guide the course of a battery of
> >>>>>> tests.  That would still require some manual interaction, but might
> >>>>>> help a little.
> >>>>>> Please let us know what you find.
> >>>>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> >>>>>>> Dear E-Prime group,
> >>>>>>> I am searching for a (presumably) simple external application (e.g., a
> >>>>>>> small VB-based program) to call several EBS2 files to run in a desired
> >>>>>>> order (preferably random order).  I would like to administer a battery
> >>>>>>> ofexperimentsin a group setting, and am having a great deal of
> >>>>>>> trouble integrating the procedures from each separate .ES2 file into
> >>>>>>> one "main" .ES2 file with blocklists (E-Prime support suggested that
> >>>>>>> my individual procedures exceed E-Prime's copy/pastecapacity, and E-
> >>>>>>> Prime's automatic renaming of duplicate objects is making the task
> >>>>>>> even more difficult).
> >>>>>>> Would anyone be willing to share something along these lines?  Any
> >>>>>>> help would be greatly appreciated.  I am not very familiar with
> >>>>>>> programming languages.
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
> >>>>>>> Frank
> >>>>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >>>>>>> Frank A. Bosco
> >>>>>>> Doctoral Student
> >>>>>>> Dept. of Management (OB/HR)
> >>>>>>> Fogelman College of Business & Economics
> >>>>>>> The University of Memphis
> >>>>>>> fbo... at memphis.edu
> >>>>>>> Office: (901) 678-4531
> >>>>>>> Cell: (901) 387-7864
> >>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> --
> Rick O'Gorman, PhD
> Psychology, Faculty of Development and Society
> Collegiate Crescent Campus,
> Sheffield Hallam University,
> Sheffield
> S10 2BP
>
> Phone: 0114 225 5788 Fax: 0114 225 2430
>
> http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html
>
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