E-Prime on a VM

liwenna liwenna at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 11:42:17 UTC 2009


Actually... I meant thanks to Frank ^.^

This topic is getting more and more complex.

I am gonna give up on autoit for today...

On Apr 20, 12:03 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Liwenna,
>
> I am thinking you meant thanks to Greg here?
>
> Rick
>
> liwenna wrote:
> > *small update*
>
> > The script to call files in a fixed order is working as properly as
> > expected. Rick, thank you so very much.
> > The auto-it forum is offline right now (maintenance) so toying around
> > with the script to make it give in subject and session numbers will
> > have to wait.
>
> > On Apr 18, 5:55 pm, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Greg,
>
> >> Well, that's one difference, and I suppose there are different bugs in
> >> the versions of VB for Mac and XP. However, still seems odd. Definitely
> >> went smoothly for me on the Mac host/XP guest using VB. I assume you're
> >> using a recent version of VB (2.1 or better)? Other than that, I'm out
> >> of ideas.
>
> >> Rick
>
> >> Greg Osenbach wrote:
> >>> I use Sun Virtual Box.  The installer runs fine.  I have tried with both
> >>> the install files copied from the CD and a mounted .iso file.  when it
> >>> gets near the end of the installation process, The virtual machine
> >>> crashes.  I have tried with several versions of vurtual box and on
> >>> several different laptops with the same results.  I had actually come to
> >>> the conclusion that for some odd reason, e-prime could not be used in a
> >>> virtual machine.  However hearing that someone got it to work, that
> >>> gives me hope to be able to get it running eventually.  Although I
> >>> should note that this was an XP virtual machine running in both XP and
> >>> Vista for hosts.  Not a mac.
> >>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Rick O'Gorman <rickogor... at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>     Hi Greg,
> >>>     I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,
> >>>     only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was
> >>>     partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest
> >>>     OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows
> >>>     also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but
> >>>     the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to
> >>>     reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right
> >>>     ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a
> >>>     pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.
> >>>     I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run
> >>>     it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?
> >>>     Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?
> >>>     Rick
> >>>     Greg Osenbach wrote:
> >>>      > Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to
> >>>     install in a
> >>>      > virtual box virtual machine?  I have tried installing it in my
> >>>     virtual
> >>>      > machine several times and it always crashes during the install...
> >>>      > Greg
> >>>      > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman
> >>>     <rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>
> >>>      > <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com <mailto:rickogor... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>      >     Liwenna:
> >>>      >     As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a
> >>>     program
> >>>      >     called Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org
> >>>     <http://www.virtualbox.org> <http://www.virtualbox.org>)
> >>>      >     for *free* from Sun which does
> >>>      >     the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy
> >>>     but I
> >>>      >     didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a
> >>>     legal
> >>>      >     Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from
> >>>     your univ.
> >>>      >     I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle
> >>>      >     recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell
> >>>     Virtualbox to access
> >>>      >     the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one
> >>>     time I did,
> >>>      >     the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the
> >>>     ones I used
> >>>      >     previously)--I got them from
> >>>      >    http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx, using the
> >>>     HASP HL ones
> >>>      >     I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on
> >>>     whether you use
> >>>      >     an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an
> >>>      >     option).
> >>>      >     The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this
> >>>     regard, as
> >>>      >     'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went
> >>>     so far as
> >>>      >     to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows
> >>>      >     install--even though its running natively and is as
> >>>     legitimate a version
> >>>      >     of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly
> >>>     has made me
> >>>      >     keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance
> >>>     presents
> >>>      >     itself.
> >>>      >     Rick
> >>>      >     liwenna wrote:
> >>>      >      > Hello Frank,
> >>>      >      > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you
> >>>     could try the
> >>>      >      > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3
> >>>     scripts, and
> >>>      >      > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need
> >>>     to figure
> >>>      >      > out the language... My guess is that if you get the
> >>>     program to run
> >>>      >      > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as
> >>>      >     said, ICT
> >>>      >      > guys won't let me.  At home I also can't do that as I am
> >>>     the proud
> >>>      >      > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain
> >>>      >     (and yes
> >>>      >      > I should get myself some parallels).
> >>>      >      > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted
> >>>     first thing
> >>>      >      > on monday!
> >>>      >      > Sincerely,
> >>>      >      > liwenna.
> >>>      >      > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <goo... at frankbosco.com
> >>>     <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>
> >>>      >     <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com
> >>>     <mailto:goo... at frankbosco.com>>> wrote:
> >>>      >      >> Hi Liwenna,
> >>>      >      >> Thanks for your message.  Re: having autoit automatically
> >>>     insert
> >>>      >      >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that
> >>>     I think
> >>>      >     about
> >>>      >      >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try
> >>>     something like the
> >>>      >      >> following:
> >>>      >      >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box
> >>>     at the start
> >>>      >      >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected
> >>>     .ebs2 files
> >>>      >      >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in
> >>>     one of their
> >>>      >      >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") .
> >>>      The next part
> >>>      >      >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session
> >>>     values) is
> >>>      >      >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the
> >>>     following:
> >>>      >      >> In the current code, there are lines that include
> >>>     (something like)
> >>>      >      >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell
> >>>     autoit to
> >>>      >      >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply
> >>>     providing
> >>>      >      >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my
> >>>     current code with
> >>>      >      >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session
> >>>     number collected
> >>>      >      >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).
> >>>      >      You may
> >>>      >      >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box
> >>>     appears, then
> >>>      >      >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the
> >>>     input box, then
> >>>      >      >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code).  I know it
> >>>     sounds
> >>>      >     silly,
> >>>      >      >> but it might actually work...
> >>>      >      >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very)
> >>>     late tonight,
> >>>      >      >> then send you a code file if I figure it out...  For now,
> >>>     you can
> >>>      >      >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my
> >>>      >     personal
> >>>      >      >> website: [www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3
> >>>     <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>
> >>>      >     <http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3>]  -- this version
> >>>      >      >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined
> >>>     sequence
> >>>      >     (after
> >>>      >      >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).
> >>>      >      >> Hope that helps!
> >>>      >      >> Best,
> >>>      >      >> Frank
> >>>      >      >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <liwe... at gmail.com
> >>>     <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>
> >>>      >     <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com <mailto:liwe... at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>      >      >>> It is like magic!!!
> >>>      >      >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests.
> >>>     Well...
> >>>      >     almost
> >>>      >      >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am
> >>>     trying to
> >>>      >     get that
> >>>      >      >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my
> >>>      >      >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little
> >>>     programs like
> >>>      >      >>> this.
> >>>      >      >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject
> >>>     and session
> >>>      >      >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface
> >>>      >     wherein you
> >>>      >      >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole
> >>>     everything
> >>>      >      >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys
> >>>     informed if
> >>>      >      >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if
>
> ...
>
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