Specifying output data file location?

David McFarlane mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Thu Jan 28 21:24:48 UTC 2010


For the record, Jacqueline Ann Mogle of Syracuse University came 
through for us and posted some documentation on the StartupInfo file, 
and did a much better job than PST staff.  You may find her post at 
http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic4015-6-1.aspx .  Thanks, Jacquie!

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


At 1/28/2010 03:02 PM Thursday, you wrote:
>At 1/21/2010 04:08 PM Thursday, David McFarlane wrote:
>>As discussed below, the StartupInfo file facility promises the 
>>answer for EP2.  This was announced at least as far back as Oct 
>>2007 (see http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic609-6-1.aspx ), but 
>>no details have been forthcoming since then.  I myself have a Web 
>>Support request about this very issue going back to Dec 2008, at 
>>which time Matt said that the StartupInfo file would "be available 
>>in an upcoming build" when a public editor became available (a 
>>"public editor"!?  why not just use a plain old text file that we 
>>can view and edit as we like??), and that he would notify me when 
>>this happened.  Over a year later, and I have not seen any such 
>>notice.  Perhaps it's time for me to update my support request.
>
>OK, I did some legwork and at long last got the following response 
>from Matt at PST:
>
>"The public build that includes the StartupInfo Editor (2.0.8.73) 
>was just released in December. Anyone can get it via the Download 
>section on the support site or via 
>http://www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support/getep2.asp. Note that this is 
>available in E-Prime 2.0 Professional only.
>
>"The StartupInfo Editor functionality is documented in the New 
>Features Guide, available through the E-Prime 2.0 folder on the 
>Windows Start menu.
>
>"Basically, the StartupInfo Editor is an easy way to edit 
>*.startupinfo files, which are XML-based. You don't have to use the 
>editor, however, and the *.startupinfo files can be edited through 
>Notepad or some other text editor. You can also make changes to the 
>files through E-Prime (e.g., to increment a subject number for the 
>next run, etc). The syntax for doing this is provided in the New 
>Features Guide."
>
>
>I responded to Matt (with slight revisions) as follows:
>
>Thanks.  To be fair to you folks, I see now that Brandon posted this 
>in a pinned topic on the Forum, and I had read that post but forgot 
>about it.  OTOH the threads discussing this issue were left hanging, 
>and that is what set me off here.  Now here are some questions.
>
>- Very glad to hear that we can in principle make a StartupInfo file 
>with any text editor.  So, do I need to install EP2.0.8.73 just to 
>read the documentation, or is there some other way for me to get the 
>documentation so I can get started exploring StartupInfo files?  I 
>have downloaded 2.0.8.73, but unfortunately I am not at liberty to 
>upgrade from 2.0.8.22 just yet, and it seems silly to need to 
>upgrade just to read some documentation.  Surely you can do better 
>that that.  Perhaps you could attach a version of the latest "New 
>Features Guide".
>
>- Once we have made a proper StartupInfo file (using any appropriate 
>editor) will it work in earlier versions of EP2 (e.g., 2.0.8.22), or 
>non-Pro editions, or even EP1 versions that generate script 
>referring to the StartupInfo file (you can bet I will test this out 
>myself at some point, but I would prefer some advanced hints from you)?
>
>- That's all very nice that PST supplies documentation of new 
>features in, well, the "New Features Guide".  But I read the "New 
>Features Guide" when we first got EP2 and saw it as just another 
>marketing brochure to highlight features new to EP2 from EP1, so I 
>would never think to look at it again for technical documentation of 
>features added in updates within EP2.  What you need is a simple 
>"What's New" text file with a complete revision history that geeks 
>like me would actually look at.
>
>- Looking beyond the StartupInfo file to broader issues, how can we 
>get automated notices of E-Prime developments?  Sure, the PST 
>Newsletter is a good start, but that does not come out often enough 
>(only quarterly) and is more a marketing tool that an instrument for 
>useful technical updates.  E.g., I would like a notice whenever a 
>new article gets added to the KB so that I can keep up to date.  And 
>please do not suggest using RSS, I have tried RSS and found it useless.
>
>-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
>"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over 
>public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."  (Richard Feynman, 
>Nobel prize-winning physicist)

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