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[Vera]

David,

maybe I expressed myself wrongly here: I am still convinced that the
thing I wanted to do should work without programming a single line (or
at least, let's say that is what I expected). Of course I understand
that if you want to do the REAL complicated stuff, E-Prime has its
limits and one needs to program. I am just a little bit, let's call it
"deceived" because I am convinced that my experimental setup is not
very complicated in itself.

This all said, I didn't try the solution you proposed yet and as it
seems, things will function without programming, so maybe I just too
quickly decided to program. But then at some point the "E-Prime
solution" seems so far-fetched that programming appears the simpler
and more elegant solution.

Greetings, Vera

PS: Like the signature. :-)



On Mar 12, 2:53 pm, dkmcf <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> Vera,
>
> Glad you got it to work, and thank you for a full presentation of your
> solution!  But I feel I must provide an editorial reply to your own
> editorial comment.
>
> > I am still convinced that E-Prime should work without programming
>
> In this case one solution does not require any code, as I demonstrate
> above (unless I just do not fully understand your task).  But more
> broadly, I just do not understand people who think that giving precise
> instructions to a machine with infinite possibilities (i.e., a
> Universal Turing Machine, look that up on Wikipedia) should "work
> without programming",  any more than I would understand anyone who
> thinks that scientific publications should "work without science-
> speak".  I have looked at many other experiment generating systems
> that "work without programming", and none of them, without
> programming, come close to the capabilities of what E-Prime can do
> because of its programming.  In fact, my sole reason for endorsing E-
> Prime is precisely that it still includes a strong, conventional
> programming language.  Please see my signature quote below.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
> "When all is said and told, the 'naturalness' with which we use our
> native tongues boils down to the ease with which we can use them for
> making statements the nonsense of which is not obvious."  Edsger W.
> Dijkstra, "On the foolishness of 'natural language programming'",http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD667.html
> .

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