Nested lists, random order, and feedback

David McFarlane mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Mon Jan 24 22:12:54 UTC 2011


Pooja,

I don't have any quick solution for you, especially for such a 
complex design.  I can only say that this looks for a job for nested 
Lists, and to get started on those you need to work through the 
Nested Lists tutorial in Appendix C of the Users Guide that came with E-Prime.

Good luck,
-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


>I'm trying to use e-Prime for my dissertation, and am having trouble 
>creating an experiment with nested lists, both random and sequential 
>ordering, and feedback (with the random order). I'm not a novice to 
>e-Prime, however I am a novice in terms of writing and using scripts.
>
>In general, subjects will be reading passages and taking tests.  I 
>have eight passages, which need to be presented in sequential order. 
>The first time passages are presented, subjects will simply be 
>reading the passages one after another in order, so I have that part 
>figured out.
>
>After reading all 8 passages, the critical conditions should be 
>administered, in one of 8 different sequential orders (called CB in 
>the attached program): never seen again (for 2 passage), reading 
>again (2 passages), taking a version A test (2), or taking a version 
>B test (2). Again, I have this sequential ordering figured out (but 
>haven't typed it in for all CBs yet).
>
>For each test, I have 8 multiple-choice questions. Even though tests 
>are presented in sequential order, I'd like the 8 questions 
>presented in random order.
>
>For each question, I have 4 multiple-choice alternatives/choices. 
>I'd like to present the question and all four alternatives on ONE 
>slide, with the alternatives also presented in random order. How do 
>I get all four alternatives, in random order, to show up on one slide?
>
>Also, immediately after a subject responds to a question, they need 
>to make a rating, and then they need to receive feedback. If the 
>alternatives are presented in random order, how do I specify what 
>the correct answer is, in order for the feedback to be accurate?
>
>In the attached program, I have an order of the conditions 
>(List:ConditionOrder), an order of the tests (List:ProcedureTest), a 
>list for each set of 8 passage questions, and nested lists for each 
>question containing its respective 4 multiple-choice alternatives. 
>The order of conditions and tests are fine, but the order of 
>questions and alternatives is not, and I also can't get 4 
>alternatives (in random order) nor the feedback to work.
>
>Because I don't know how to write script, if script is necessary, I 
>would GREATLY appreciate an example script or even a written script.
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Pooja Agarwal
>
>
>P.S. Sorry for my desperation, but it'd be a life saver if I could 
>find an answer by tomorrow (Tuesday, Jan. 25), so I've cross posted 
>to the PST user forum.

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