e prime crashes if subject presses response button twice

Tue Nov 8 16:29:57 UTC 2011

Jasmina,

Ben and Hester are both steering you down the 
right track.  Based on your error message, the 
error does not come from the response to your 
stimulus object, it comes from whatever object 
later tries to load an image file using that file 
name.  So you have to start at that object and 
work backwards -- clearly, the file name that it 
tries to load is not what you think it is, 
despite all your testing.  I would try adding a 
bit of inline code with a MsgBox or Debug.Print 
that echoes the file name right before the point 
where the program crashes (E-Studio will show you 
that in the full Script window), then crash the 
program with the multiple key presses and see 
what file name E-Prime tried to use when it 
crashed.  Might turn out that the file name used 
depends in some way on the subject responses, which would explain everything.

And of course, as I keep reminding folks, you 
could also take this up with PST's trained staff 
at 
http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp 
-- they strive to respond to all requests in 
24-48 hours, and this is pretty much their 
substitute for proper documentation, so make full 
use of it.  And if you do get an answer from PST 
Web Support, please extend the courtesy of 
posting their reply back here for the sake of others.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder

At 11/8/2011 11:11 AM Tuesday, you wrote:
>Hi Ben,
>
>yeah, it is most sensible explanation. , I just 
>run it once again, to make sure it really is not 
>a mislabelling problem, so I let all the images 
>I use and all the feedback options play out 
>several times. After I made sure all of them are 
>uploading correctly, I just pressed, as before, 
>same response button twice, and sure enough- it 
>crashed. Is it possible that for some reason 
>e-prime sees it as an ImageDisplay error?
>
>Best, Jasmina
>
>On 8 November 2011 16:58, ben robinson 
><<mailto:baltimore.ben at gmail.com>baltimore.ben at gmail.com> wrote:
>i'm pretty sure, given your error message (11042: Filename on
>ImageDisplay has not been set), that it has absolutely nothing to do
>with how you are coding responses.  whichever ImageDisplay object is
>meant to onset at the moment your program is crashing has a missing or
>mis-labeled image file specified, and that ImageDisplay object crashes
>e-prime because it can't find an image file that it needs in order to
>perform its job.
>
>ben
>
>On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jasmina Bakic 
><<mailto:jasmina.bakic at gmail.com>jasmina.bakic at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Hester,
> >
> > yes, I think you are totally right about this 
> one, thank you! E prime has to
> > give the feedback based on the correctness of the response, with three
> > options "true", "false" and "too late". The 
> problem is, I don;t want to just
> > get rid of the double/triple button press answers because I am still
> > interested in knowing whether the answer was correct or not. The only in
> > line that I wrote so far was to make sure that the answers will be recorded
> > whether they are given during the stimulus presentation or in the blank
> > afterwards, and I don't know how to expand this to include cases where
> > button has been pressed several times, so to still record the answer and
> > give the feedback.
> >
> > Jas
> > On 7 November 2011 14:37, Hester Duffy 
> <<mailto:hester.duffy at gmail.com>hester.duffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It may be to do with the way your program deals with responses; I've dealt
> >> with an issue in the past where, if the response wasn't what e-prime was
> >> expecting, it fell into an interminable loop and then crashed. Is E-prime
> >> doing anything with your responses other than simply recording them? For
> >> example, is it using them to set event codes, to determine feedback, to
> >> choose the next stimulus, anything of that 
> sort? If so, it's worth having a
> >> look at the bit of code that does that, and ensuring that there's a
> >> catch-all "ELSE" function, so that if the feedback is something other than
> >> what e-prime was expecting, it still knows what to do with it.
> >>
> >> H
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jasmina 
> Bakic <<mailto:jasmina.bakic at gmail.com>jasmina.bakic at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Mich and Maartje, thank you for the advices and the wits. I am still
> >>> working on it …
> >>>
> >>> To answer your question, Mich, I can actually make it crash
> >>> intentionally, I just have to press one of 
> the two possible response keys on
> >>> the keyboard several times,  and it crashes 
> right away. So, unfortunately, I
> >>> don’t think it is the problem with pressing shift or windows button.
> >>>
> >>> My two  “ participants” report that this is, of course, totally
> >>> unintentional, and probably very difficult to control, especially after a
> >>> while, when you really get into the task.
> >>>
> >>> The response message that I get is : 11042: Filename on ImageDisplay has
> >>> not been set
> >>>
> >>> On ImageDisplay I had set the two possible responses in the Response
> >>> Options session under “allowable”...
> >>>
> >>> Jas
> >>>
> >>> On 7 November 2011 12:14, Michiel Spape 
> <<mailto:Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk>Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> Just to say: this one completely went over my head - you're absolutely
> >>>> right, that'd certainly crash e-prime! I doubt it's the problem here,
> >>>> though, the only one who repeatedly 
> activates "Stickykeys" is my cat, who
> >>>> likes to sleep on top of my keyboard 
> (especially when I'm trying to use it).
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Mich
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Michiel M. Sovijärvi-Spapé
> >>>> Research Fellow
> >>>> Perception & Action group
> >>>> University of Nottingham
> >>>> School of Psychology
> >>>> <http://www.cognitology.eu>www.cognitology.eu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: 
> <mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com>e-prime at googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On
> >>>> Behalf Of mrtj
> >>>> Sent: 06 November 2011 21:12
> >>>> To: E-Prime
> >>>> Subject: Re: e prime crashes if subject presses response button twice
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jas,
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you using a Eprime response box, or are you using the keyboard of
> >>>> your computer?
> >>>> If you are using a keyboard: When participants accidently press the
> >>>> shift button repeatedly (or some other key combinations), this will
> >>>> activate 'StickyKeys' (or other functions) in Windows and will cause
> >>>> Eprime to crash. You can deactivate these automatic key functions
> >>>> through the Control Panel > Accessibility Options > Keyboard.
> >>>> I'm not sure of this is your problem, but if so this may well help.
> >>>>
> >>>> groeten,
> >>>> Maartje
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 4, 5:26 pm, Jas 
> <<mailto:jasmina.ba... at gmail.com>jasmina.ba... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi everybody,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am trying to design an experiment on E-prime, which pretty much
> >>>> > worked except that if it happens that the subject accidentally presses
> >>>> > the response button more than once, or presses both response buttons
> >>>> > one right after the other, the E prime crashes and won't continue the
> >>>> > experiment. Being an absolute beginner, I don' t even know what
> >>>> > information you may need to be able to help me. Any help from more
> >>>> > experienced users is appreciated.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Best regards, Jas

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