What's best for E-Prime video timing accuracy: Mirror mode, VGA splitter, or Display Port splitter?
David McFarlane
mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Mon Dec 10 18:49:02 UTC 2012
Scott,
Good questions, wish I had an answer, hope someone else does. You
should submit this to PST Web Support at
http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , after all it
is their business to know these things. Then please post back here
with the answer.
Thanks,
-- David McFarlane
At 12/9/2012 05:08 PM Sunday, Scott wrote:
>I don't expect perfection, but would like feedback to help choose
>how to setup a new lab using E-Prime using physiological equipment
>in two rooms. One room has two PCs, one recording physiological
>measurements, connected (via the parallel port) to a second PC
>running E-Prime. Each will be monitored by experimenters in that
>room. The other room has the subject's video display and button box.
>My question has to do ONLY with the E-Prime PC. We want
>experimenters to be able to see what the subject sees, while they
>monitor physiological recording, so we want the E-Prime video
>mirrored on LCD displays in the two rooms. Of course this is a very
>common situation for such labs (using EEG, fMRI, EDR, etc). Our
>E-Prime computer has a video card (AMD RADEON HD 7470) with one
>Display Port and one VGA port. Using this computer and display card,
>there are 3 simple ways (afaik) to accomplish what I want and
>display the same thing on two monitors:
> * Connect one LCD to the Display Port and the other to the VGA
> port, and set the display card to clone mode;
> * Connect a VGA Y-splitter to the computer's VGA port, and
> connect one LCD monitor to each side of the splitter; or
> * Connect a Display Port Y-splitter to the computer's VGA port,
> and connect one LCD monitor (via Display Port-to-HDMI or -to-VGA
> converter) to each side of the splitter.
>
>Using method #1, the E-Prime 2.0.10.184 or later Experiment Advisor
>will warn that "Mirroring can cause timing issues since vertical
>blank synchronization is not accurate between multiple displays..."
>(see <http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=5014>KB 5014 -
>FEATURE: Experiment Advisor Module - Display adapter set to clone
>mode). However, I do not know whether using a splitter will actually
>improve timing consistency or solve any issues related to vertical
>blank synchronization. If a splitter would be better, Also, I don't
>know whether the type of splitter would make any difference in this
>regard. (I do know that video resolution and quality might differ).
>Note that I am aware of various issues (eg., input lag, rise time)
>that can compromise timing accuracy of LCD displays. As a said at
>the outset, I'm not expecting perfection, or even anything close to
>the accuracy of a single CRT monitor. My goal is simply to minimize
>the variability of the time between the onset sync, detected by
>E-Prime, and the onset of the visual display seen by the subject. A
>constant lag does not concern me. Also, the two monitors to do NOT
>need to be synchronized with each other, except to the extent
>necessary for even one to be (relatively) synchronized to the
>vertical blank. Also note that I am NOT concerned or asking about
>synchronization between physiological recordings and the vertical
>blank time detected by E-Prime, signaled via the parallel port;
>that's a different and less troublesome issue, imho. Also, I
>understand that timing accuracy is more or less critical, depending
>on experimental paradigms and physiological measures. All I'm asking
>about is which of the 3 methods listed above can be expected to
>yield the most consistent and reliable (or least bad) timings, as a
>general rule, when connecting two LCD displays, both showing the
>same content, to one PC running E-Prime. If anyone knows any better
>methods, other than these 3, I'd like to hear about them as well.
>
>Thanks, in advance, for sharing relevant experience, knowledge, and
>advice. --Scott
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