Strange problem
David McFarlane
mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Thu May 2 19:32:53 UTC 2013
Thanks, this helps a little, although I still need more. Also (1)
you really should take this to PST Web Support, and (2) when you
reply here, *please* include the preceeding thread in full, otherwise
it is hard for others (and me) to follow along later.
Anyway, I still want to know the PreRelease value, that is critical
to my thinking. If you are using EP2.0.8.10 then you probably use
the default of "same as duration". I also need to know more about
the structure of your Procedure. E.g., I assume that your inline
immediately follows your WhiteDot, but I need you to confirm or
correct that. And please give more concrete, explicit descriptions
of your responses, not just "correct", but what counts as correct. I
would like to see a better step-by-step description of what the
subject is supposed to do on each trial, and some concrete examples
of trial stimuli & responses.
Best if you work out a stripped-down version to demonstrate this
issue. But now I may not get back to this again until next week.
Best,
-- David McFarlane
At 5/2/2013 03:12 PM Thursday, Vaaal wrote:
>You are right, I wasn't clear, and plus I think that there is a more
>easy way to explain it.
>I have a slide called WhiteDot. Assuming that I always give it the
>correct response (ACC=1). If I read the whiteDot.ACC just after the
>slide, the value is (most of the time but not always!) 0. If I read
>it after some other slides, the value is 1. Of course nothing change
>in the inline script about the ACC of the whitedot slide.
>
>The post run of whitedot slide is *afterObjectRun*, the prerun is
>*beforeObjectRun*.
>The duration of "WhiteDot" is a random variable called DurationA. In
>the field "Duration" I wrote [DurationA].
>-What Time Limit do you use for the input mask on whiteDot? <-I am
>not sure I understand this one. Time Limit of the response is (same
>as duration). The correct response is to do nothing (just to way
>DurationA milliseconds) (actually, to be more precise, the subject
>is asked to press a button on a previous slide, and to keep the
>button pressed during WhiteDot. If the subject releases the button
>there is an incorrect resposne, otherwise a correct one).
>When I say "assuming that I always give the correct response" I
>mean: assuming that I always wait the right amount of time without
>doing anything but keep the button pressed.
>
>Could you write and described a stripped-down program that
>exhibits this phenomenon so that we might try to duplicate it? - Yes
>I can, but only tomorrow. Maybe you are able to help with the
>information that I have provided you now?
>Thank you very much! :-)
>
>
>On Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:45:44 UTC+1, Vaaal wrote:
>Hi, I am experiencing a really strange problem with e prime.
>
>It is something simple like this:
>
>
>Debug.print "1 WhiteDot ACC=" & whiteDot.ACC
>
>If whiteDot.ACC=1 Then
>
>
>Debug.print "2 WhiteDot ACC=" & whiteDot.ACC
>end if
>
>What the debug print is sometimes
>
>1 WhiteDot ACC=1
>2 WhiteDot ACC=1
>
>and sometimes
>
>1 WhiteDot ACC=0
>2 WhiteDot ACC=1
>
>and sometimes
>
>1 WhiteDot ACC=0
>2 WhiteDot ACC=0
>
>
>
>Assuming that the answer to WhiteDot is always ACCurate and that if
>I print the whiteDot.ACC in a following inline function it always
>returns 1, i think that the problem is that ACC value of WhiteDot
>slide doesn't update instantly. The problem is that in the real
>inline function I have to do an operation if whiteDot.ACC=0, so it
>has to be updated instantly after the slide! How can I be sure that
>this occours?
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