Experiment Advisor Monitoring
David McFarlane
mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Fri Sep 27 15:42:52 UTC 2013
If you just unplug your computer from the network while running
E-Prime experiments (as advised in the E-Prime User's Guide), not
only will you disable clock synchronization, you will also avoid
other timing interferences due to network activities.
-- dkm
At 9/27/2013 11:33 AM Friday, David Vinson wrote:
>Hi Vaaal,
>
>I had some exchanges with PST support about the clock issues with
>WinXP, here's what they told me at the time:
>
>>Windows XP sometimes causes the speed of the processor to be
>>reported as the clock frequency. When the speed of the processor
>>changes during an experiment, this can interfere with E-Prime's
>>timing. Therefore, our developers have advised that some users with
>>Windows XP may need to switch over to the power management clock. I
>>have attached a document explaining how to make this change. Once
>>the change has been made, E-Prime will use the power management
>>clock on your system, which should perform much better than the
>>default clock. Note that this involves changing your system's
>>Boot.ini file, so we strongly recommend backing up your system
>>before performing these actions.
>>
>>Also, you should consider turning off clock synchronization, at
>>least while running E-Prime experiments. It should only occur
>>occasionally, but your network might have different custom
>>settings. Please see the following Microsoft article for more
>>information:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_date_turn_off_synch.mspx?mfr=true.
>>Of course, the simplest way to turn it off during an experiment is
>>to physically unplug the cable from the computer. You should not
>>have any other programs or processes running during the experiment
>>anyway, so unplugging it should not cause any problems.
>
>The document mentioned in the first paragraph includes instructions
>on how to switch the power management clock by editing boot.ini -
>I'm sure PST support will pass that information along to you in due course.
>
>Hope this helps,
>(A different) David
>
>
>On 27/09/2013 16:24, Vaaal wrote:
>>Hi David,
>>thank you for your advice, I got it.
>>What actually concerns me is this one, since my machine in the lab
>>run exactly Windows XP: "The E-Prime Primary Clock is configured in
>>a way that could cause timing inconsistencies on Windows XP.
>>Contact PST Tech Support to configure the clock for more stabilized
>>performance when using Windows XP with this finding". I contacted
>>the PST tech support but still no reply. In the meantime, do you
>>have any knowledge about that? Should I install a new OS in my lab machine?
>>
>>On Friday, 27 September 2013 15:49:28 UTC+1, McFarlane, David wrote:
>>
>> Valerio,
>>
>> You can puzzle this out for yourself. Try the following. Open a
>> blank (Professional) experiment. Run it. Now look at the resulting
>> ExperimentAdvisorReport.xml. See the Experiment Advisor Modules
>> table? Does it include all the same items as before, even though the
>> experiment is completely blank?
>>
>> Now disable some of the Experiment Advisor Modules. E.g., back in
>> E-Studio, open the Experiment Object Properties, go to the Experiment
>> Advisor tab, and disable "Use of ClearAfter" and "Use of
>> Stretch". Run this, open the resulting ExperimentAdvisorReport.xml,
>> and look at the Experiment Advisor Modules table. Do you see that
>> "An object has its ClearAfter property set to Yes..." and "A visual
>> object has its Stretch property set to Yes..." have both disappeared?
>>
>> From this evidence would you conclude that the Experiment Advisor
>> Modules table tells you only what modules were enabled, and not what
>> problems it found? Would you find this useful, because without this
>> information you could not tell whether the lack of a warning only
>> meant that that test was not run?
>>
>> As usual, do not take my word for any of this, test it out for
>> yourself. I presented my answer this way because I need to stress
>> that I do not have any inside knowledge about E-Prime, I simply
>> figure it out exactly as I outlined above.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> -----
>> David McFarlane
>> E-Prime training
>> online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
>> <http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx>
>> Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster
>> > <https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster>)
>>
>> /----
>> Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff
>> take any and all questions at
>> http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp
>> <http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp> , and they
>> strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, so make full use of
>> it. 3) In addition, PST offers several instructional videos on their
>> YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET
>> > <http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET> ). 4) If you do
>> get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting
>> their reply back here for the sake of others.
>> \----
>>
>>
>> At 9/26/2013 05:01 PM Thursday, Vaaal wrote:
>> >Quick question about this interesting feature of e-prime. When I
>> >open the xml I can read several tables. Although it is clear for me
>> >the meaning of onset to onset stats, onset delay stats, load time
>> >stats and experiment advisor finding, the last table is a little bit
>> >more difficult for me to understand: Experiment Advisor Modules.
>> >I was checking this table when I notice that most of the "problem"
>> >pointed out by this table was actually not relevant for my
>> design. For example:
>> > "A visual object has its Stretch property set to Yes, which can
>> > cause display timing anomalies. Instead of using Stretch, consider
>> > editing the source material to match the size and proportions you
>> > want to display during the experiment".
>> >But no visual object in my experiment has stretch set to Yes. Or,
>> again:
>> >"An object has its ClearAfter property set to Yes. ClearAfter is a
>> >deprecated property."
>> >
>> >This is not true for any of my object.
>> >So, how reliable is this table?
>> >Or maybe it just point out to POSSIBLE/LIKELY problems, without
>> >actually telling that you are incurring in one of those?
>> >
>> >Thank you very much for any clarification.
>> >Valerio
>
>--
>David Vinson, Ph.D.
>ESRC Research Fellow
>Cognitive, Perceptual and Brain Sciences Research Department
>University College London
>26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP
>Tel +44 (0)20 7679 5311 (UCL internal ext. 25311)
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