Rule-List Fallacy
Martin Haspelmath
haspelmath at eva.mpg.de
Tue Jun 10 18:49:47 UTC 2008
Thanks a lot, Brian, for this very lucid explanation of the issues from
a psycholinguistic point of view! I have long shared your view that "in
a given usage of a particular form by a given person at a given moment,
one seldom knows whether rules or lists applied. Only if a clear
productive overgeneralization occurs, and this is very rare, can one
know for sure that a rule or gang effect applied" (my view is probably
due to your influence, however indirectly!). This also makes me quite
skeptical of "cognitive linguistics" of any sort – the adjective
"cognitive" sounds great, especially to linguists who don't know much
about cognition, but it probably promises more than we can deliver as
linguists.
Concerning your last point:
> Given this horse race view, I find it difficult to understand how one
> can view either rules or lists as the unmarked or default case or
> suggest that there is any null hypothesis regarding this interplay.
> One can entertain opposing null hypotheses, of course, but their
> half-life would be measured in seconds.
What I meant is that rote processing and rule processing do not have the
same status: Vervet monkeys and dogs are pretty good at rote processing,
but to what extent they can deal with rules is unclear. Clearly,
rote/list precedes rule phylogentically and ontogenetically, and while
rote/list without rule can be fully functional, rule without rote/list
is incoherent – there wouldn't be anything for the rule to apply to.
Thus, one cannot cite the Rule-List Fallacy as an argument against the
claim that rules don't exist (as Newmeyer has done in his paper and in a
recent Funknet message). Sometimes (e.g. in vervet monkeys) they really
don't seem to exist, and maybe someone wants to argue that human
language is likewise fully rote/list-based, without rules.
Martin
Brian MacWhinney wrote:
> Dear Funknetters,
> This posting is not directly about the Newmeyer analysis, which seemed
> reasonable enough to me, but rather about the issue of the rule-list
> fallacy. Basically, my point here is that thinking of this as a
> dichotomy is useful for a first pass, but soon becomes inadequate when
> you think of actual mental processing.
> Within psycholinguistics, the interplay between lists and rules is the
> centerpiece of the debate between single and dual-route models. In the
> dual-route account, one route is rule (or rather combination with the
> result adjusted by rule) and the other is rote (or lists). Evidence
> for lists usually relies on the existence of exceptions to rules.
> Evidence for rules usually relies on productivity for new forms. In
> child language, productivity is also evidenced by overregularizations
> and other errors. This interplay between combination and rote occurs
> on every linguistic level.
> The most powerful model of dual-route interactions sees the two
> processes as engaged in a horse race. Both operate all the time, but
> the winner in a given case is determined by item strength and support.
> In 1986, Joe Stemberger and I provided evidence indicating that even
> regular forms such as "wanted" are occasionally produced by rote (or
> lists), since high frequency regulars are more resistant to speech
> errors phenomena then low-frequency regulars. If all regulars were
> produced by rule, this type of frequency effect should not obtain.
> One can also describe the rule-list interplay in a single-route
> connectionist model. However, in my opinion, such models simply
> involve recharacterizing rules as gang effects. And these models have
> to enforce special procedures to guarantee that lists can survive. In
> the end, they just recharacterize the dual route . So, I see no real
> way out of the idea of an interplay between processes and a horse race
> between forms.
> What does this mean for the FunkNet discussion? Basically, it means
> that, in a given usage of a particular form by a given person at a
> given moment, one seldom knows whether rules or lists applied. Only if
> a clear productive overgeneralization occurs, and this is very rare,
> can one know for sure that a rule or gang effect applied. Given this
> inherent ambiguity of real data and the essentially competitive nature
> of the underlying process, only models that provide a fundamental role
> of dual-process interplay make contact with psychological reality.
> Fortunately, by examining the numbers in large corpora, one can get an
> idea of the overall strengths of the various horses, but that is about
> the best one can do and doing that right takes some care.
> Given this horse race view, I find it difficult to understand how one
> can view either rules or lists as the unmarked or default case or
> suggest that there is any null hypothesis regarding this interplay.
> One can entertain opposing null hypotheses, of course, but their
> half-life would be measured in seconds.
>
> --Brian MacWhinney
>
>
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