A question of Tenure...

[Patty Davies]

What do you mean?  I am interested in an upcoming Masters program at the
local university (where I received B.A. in Linguistics in 2000).  The new
Masters from the Community Studies Dept. isn't scheduled to begin until
Fall 2004, so barring unforeseen problems...How are you finding that the
process is different?  And do you mean for PH.D. or Masters too?

Patty

At 09:08 AM 2/3/03 -0800, Terri Spath wrote:

>i have a question for you - not an answer.  i am on this list because i
>recently quit my job and i'm interested in pursuing a phd - i want to
>study cognitive psych and gender - i am learning that applying is very
>different than the process when i applied for my mba - it seems that i
>need to get to know professors - any tips for a complete outsider?
>
>  Lisa Camasi <lcamasi at UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
>Hello to all,
>
>I have a question for any and all list members (and academic colleagues)
>who are inclined to reply.
>
>I am taking a graduate seminar at UC Berkeley, the title of which is
>Discourse, Gender, Institutions and Power. The current institution is
>Academia, and the discussion at the moment is how one goes about getting
>Tenure. This is being discussed in light of recent decisions by some
>universities to consider "collegiality" when deciding whether or not to
>confer tenure.
>
>So my question is: How did you gain Tenure (If you have it) or what do you
>think it takes (if you don't, but are pursuing it)? We know that the stock
>answer is through outstanding research and writing, teaching and service to
>one's field. Those are all the 'official' measures. What we are curious
>about are the 'unofficial' yardsticks by which people are measured in their
>pursuit of Tenure.
>
>A former lecturer of mine once said (with a tone of disbelief) that
>"whether or not you get a job, much less Tenure, has more to do with
>whether the rest of the department wants to spend the next 20 years
>standing next to you at the photocopier than the quality and depth of your
>research!"
>
>I would be grateful for any and all responses to this query. Responses
>will be shared with a group of approximately 12 graduate students and a
>couple of post docs. If you would like your response to be anonymous, I
>will delete all identifying material from your reply, but I would like to
>be able to state, for each reply, what field or department you belong to,
>whether you have tenure or are in pursuit of it, and what your status is
>professionally (assistant, associate or full professor, post doc
>researcher, graduate student, etc.)
>
>Please reply privately to my address above. Though a little lively
>discussion on the list might be nice too!
>
>Many thanks, and apologies for cross posting. Also, I would be interested
>in replies from people working in other academic departments, so would
>appreciate it if any of you would post this to other academic lists,
>especially outside of social sciences and humanities.
>
>Lisa Camasi
>
>
>
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