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> People,
I understand a point about the word choice. I usually use the term homoerotic women. 
Rogéria



I see your point.
> But within the current gender system, the critique would be "Any 
> Lesbian is not a real woman".
> 
> I am not criticizing you, but your choices are attached to certain 
> political interpretations, whether you believe in them or not.
> I'm making a point about how the logic of standard gender ideology 
> positions women who are labeled "masculine" or Lesbian".
> 
> Other gender and sex nonconforming, or resisting, people are also 
> similarly positioned.
> 
> I'm sounding a note of caution, to think about this when/if 
> choosing labels, especially before starting a project. Because the 
> labels can implicitly frame the project, and you may not want to 
> frame it that way.
> Amy
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Rezenet Moges (cappucheeno at yahoo.com) 
> wrote:
> 
> > It would not be true if I applied your logic as "masculine" women are
> > not "real" women to this statement: "butch" lesbians are not "real"
> > lesbians. I use the gender descriptions not to judge the mediocrity 
> > of a
> > person's sex.
> >
> > -Rezenet Moges
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:30:54 -0500, Amy Sheldon 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> One of the problems I have with the idea of describing nondrag king
> >> women as "mascuiline" women, is that it conveys the idea that such
> >> women are not "real" women. Not bona fide. If we stick with labels
> >> that come out of the rhetoric of gender hierarchy and gender
> >> categories, i.e., the status quo,, that's one of the consequences.
> >> Gender is political.
> >> Amy
> >>
> >
> >>>>> http://muddy.erinad.org
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