Daddies and mummies

Fri May 2 03:02:12 UTC 2008

I agree,
and as to whether the girl is having fun...the girl is taking  
instructions from the director to do each thing in a certain way with  
certain emotions to make it believable.  There were rehearsals to get  
it right.  what did the director tell the girl?
Does the body remember? How will the child "process" the body  
memories she has of her actions?

Who IS this girl? And what's the back story of who permitted her to  
be in this film... because she is underage and some parent would need  
to give permission. Is she being paid/rewarded for her "work"/fun"?

The fact that all of these questions arise, indicates that this film  
has effects beyond the moral tale it is telling.
I notice that the mother and the child are still victims of the  
father, in this imaginary world. We don't see him, just imagine him.

The film has done nothing to empower  either of mother or daughter or  
teach what them and the audience to DO in this situation. The mother  
realizes the child's preoccupation and skill at reenactment of  
brutality and that's one more preoccupation... the perp is coming  
home....  no talk about shelter, escape, alternatives, etc.
There's a menace that still hangs around in the imaginary world.
Who is empowered?  what changes?

amy sheldon

On May 1, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Campbell, Heather wrote:

> I agree that children need to be aware of their rights, the  
> existence of oppression, and so on.  However, asking a child to  
> enact such things is rather different to explaining such issues to  
> them in a sensitive manner. Enactment of violence and abuse, such  
> as is asked of the child in the making of this film, can have very  
> severe consequences for the child.
>
> Put it this way; I would not allow my child to play this role, and  
> would advise a parent against allowing their child to be involved.  
> I believe there are other, less harmful ways to get the message  
> across.
>
> Heather Campbell
> Murray School of Education
> Charles Sturt University
> Australia
>
> From: International Gender and Language Association [mailto:GALA- 
> L at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Valentina Pagliai
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> Well,
> The girl seemed to be having a lot of fun at it. And I suppose I  
> would prefer an awareness of the existence of family violence to a  
> girl misleaded into believing that certain things don't exist  
> (until it happens to them). I feel that it is really cultural, for  
> lack of a better word, the American (but not all Americans)  
> tendency to hide stuff from children. Personally, I feel it is  
> better to make children aware as soon as possible of sexism and  
> oppression, so they can learn to defend themselves.
> That's my two cents.
>
> Valentina Pagliai
> Oberlin College
>
>
> On May 1, 2008, at 9:04 PM, Campbell, Heather wrote:
>
>
> I must say, I agree with your concerns. Powerful film, but as an  
> early childhood educator, I am extremely conflicted about this.  
> There was a duty of care towards the wellbeing of the young child  
> acting in this film, and I wonder if the possible benefits deriving  
> from the film (that is, raising awareness of domestic violence and  
> its effect upon children) justify the potential harm inflicted upon  
> the child involved.
>
> Heather Campbell
>
> From: International Gender and Language Association [mailto:GALA- 
> L at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sarah Wagner
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> Subject: Re: [GALA-L] Daddies and mummies
>
> All I can think is, what about this young "actor" who is doing  
> this?  What is she thinking as she says all of these horrible  
> things?  You can't, even in an acting context, make this sound like  
> "pretend" can you?  It's an incredible film, unbelievable (and  
> incredibly important message of course), but I'm so conflicted  
> about the reality of making it.
> ----- Original Message ----
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> Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:09:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [GALA-L] Daddies and mummies
>
> Well, there's a frighteningly powerful message
> about how kids internalize and learn to reproduce
> domestic partner abuse.  I'm forwarding this to
> our SafePlace volunteer co-ordinator...
>
>
> At 10:25 PM +0200 5/1/08, Goretty Robles Fernández wrote:
> >I'm speechless.
> >http://www.metacafe.com/watch/336489/papas_y_mamas_daddies_mummies/
>
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