a question -- hearing what women have to say

[Ariel]

Definitely a big thank you for emailing this out, the meeting of politics
and gender with a socio-linguistic twist is always an interesting scenario
to read about!

Cheers,
Ariel

2009/7/15 Amy Sheldon <asheldon at umn.edu>

> The following excerpt from a recent NYTimes.com Magazine article titled,
> "The Place of Women on the [U. S. Supreme] Court" is of interest for the
> point that Justice Ruth Ginsberg makes about men not hearing [tuning out?]
> women's comments ---  voices --- in a professional setting.  This issue has
> come up before on this list.  And it seems relevant to the issue of
> under-representation of women in leadership positions.     Amy Sheldon
>
> " Q: You are said to have very warm relationships with your colleagues. And
> so I was surprised to read a comment you made in an interview in May with
> Joan Biskupic of USA Today. You said that when you were a young lawyer, your
> voice was often ignored, and then a male colleague would repeat a point
> you’d made, and other people would be alert to it. And then you said this
> still happens now at conference.
> JUSTICE GINSBURG: Not often. It was a routine thing [in the past] that I
> would say something and it would just pass, and then somebody else would say
> almost the same thing and people noticed. I think the idea in the 1950s and
> ’60s was that if it was a woman’s voice, you could tune out, because she
> wasn’t going to say anything significant. There’s much less of that. But it
> still exists, and it’s not a special experience that I’ve had. I’ve talked
> to other women in high places, and they've had the same experience.
>
> Q: I wonder if that would change if there were more women who were part of
> the mix on the court?
>
> JUSTICE GINSBURG: I think it undoubtedly would. You can imagine in Canada,
> where [Beverly] McLachlin is the chief [justice of the Supreme Court of
> Canada], I think they must have a different way of hearing a woman’s voice
> if she is the leader."
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2009, at 7:16 AM, Cecilia E. Ford wrote:
>
>  Virginia Valian's 1999 book, Why So Slow,has a chapter reviewing social
>> psych. research revealing bias in the evaluation of women vs. men. In most
>> cases, other variables were controlled for. Such findings complicate any
>> claims that women's fear contributes to our underrepresentation in
>> leadership positions.
>> Ceci Ford
>>
>> Mills, Sara wrote:
>>
>>> Try Judith Baxter's Speaking Out: The Female Voice in Public Contexts,
>>> Plagrave 2006
>>> Sara Mills
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>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am a new Member of the list. I am currently writing my thesis about
>>> whether the fear of public speaking is a reason why women are
>>> under-represented in field of politics and other power-holding positions.
>>> Does anyone know whether there is a literature that answers this question?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much in advance,
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Bettina
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