[gothic-l] Goths and ships

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Anthony,

 You asked for it. South Sweden, where most Swedes live, i.
e. south of Stockholm, has once and during millennia after
the last ice age enjoyed a climate similar to that of France
of to-day.
Västergötland and Östergötland are situated there straddled
across each side of the oblong lake Vättern and both occupy
vast and fertile plains. 

 This part of Sweden was early on ice-free and settled.
Västergötland became a notable member of the megalithic
culture with its dolmens, passage-graves, tholoi etc and
hence of the same age as those of Carnac, Stonehenge and
Maeshowe. After carbon dating finds were published my
referrence book concludes: "Suddenly and decisively the
impressive megalithic tombs of western Europe are set
earlier than any comparable monuments in the world." Which
means they were there in on the plains of Västergötland and
already old when the first pyramid of Egypt came into being.
How come?

 Geologists, botanists and other scientists have through
analyses of pollens etc among others been able to draw
vegetation maps of south Sweden covering the last 10 - 13
millennia with the following estimates: The sharp upturn of
temperatures occurred during the 8th millenium B.C.E and the
average mid-july temperature from 6000 B.C.E till 2000 B.C.E
must have been around +19 degrees C (compared to to-day's
some +15-16 degrees. The plains of Västergötland was thickly
settled around the time when the oldest stones of the oldest
wall of the world's oldest city of Jericho were put in
place.

 The worsening of the climate occurred some 500 B.C.E but
then we are entering historic times with its migrations and
the controversies on the origin of the Goths.. Since the
Saxons, through the house of Goodwin, retook the English
throne and the Wessexians stopped flaying Danes alive and
putting their skins on the church door they have continued
to smear and verbally flog the Scandinavians who, by and
large, 'live on some uninhabitable, barren, misty, cold
place where no cicilized people' (=speaking the anglo-saxon
tongue) can live. Hence the reluctance to even consider
Scandinavia as an origin of anything at all worth noticing.
Burp.

 (Read my lips: The main part of the Baltic is never
freezing. Settlers and emigrants came and went by boat,
Anthony, by ship).

;^))

So there.

Seigmund


Anthony.Appleyard at umist.ac.uk wrote:

> If the Goths started in Vastergotland and Ostergotland and the island
> of Gotland, how did they get across the Baltic Sea?

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