[gothic-l] Re: '*Thiudawordaz'/'*Thiudaiworda'?(crosspost)

[Matthew Carver]

Hails!
Sorry for the late response. Seems my messages have been bouncing :(

This sound change is one that happens in Germanic periods, between 
Prot-Germanic through Common Germanic. We get o > u before r but u > o 
before r in Gothic reverses this change.

Matþaius

--- In gothic-l at egroups.com, Tim O'Neill <scatha at b...> wrote:
> Brian Beck wrote:
> > 
> > --- In gothic-l at egroups.com, Tim O'Neill <scatha at b...> wrote:
> > > Tim O'Neill wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > My problem is the name.  At this stage the site is called
> > > > '*Thiudawordaz' which was my guess at Primitive Germanic
> > for 'People
> > > > Words'.  But I think the meaning I was really after was
> > more 'Words
> > > > of the People/Tribe', which I'm guessing would be something like
> > > > '*Thiudaiworda'.
> > > >
> > > > Can any linguists help me with this?
> > >
> > > Hmmm, no responses.  Seriously folks, any help on this will be
> > > greatly appreciated.  I can't finish the site until I get its title
> > > right and I'd hate for Germanic-L's site to have a name that's
> > > liguistically creaky.
> > >
> > > Is it 'Thiudaiworda' or have I got it totally wrong?
> > > Many thanks in advance for anyone who can help me.
> 
> 
> > Tim,
> >    The Gothic would be 'Thiudawaurda', but Proto-germanic would (I
> > think) be something like '*Theudowurdo'(neuter plural), with both d's
> > pronounced as dental fricatives.  Perhaps some of our more
> > knowledgeable members could confirm or refute this.
> 
> Thanks Brian.  Reading a bit more of Wright's section on phonology 
> (section 114) I'd just worked out the '-o' ending for the strong
> neuter plural.  But I'm wondering about '*wurdo' for 'words', since
> Wright says the Primitive Germanic form would have been 'wordo'
> (section 181)
> 
> So does this mean my word is '*Theudowordo'?
> 
> Tim O'Neill



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