[gothic-l] Polish Views On the Goths - Prussians?

[Tore Gannholm]

>Dirk,
>
>Yes, but on the other hand there is the standpoint of
>offered in _Schaetze der Ostgoten_:
>
>"Seit laengerer Zeit verbinden die Archaelogen
>eindeutig die Wielbark-Kultur mit den Goten."
>
>During the first century AD that culture stretched from Middle and
>East Pomerania to the Vistula mouth and eastwards
>to the Kulm heights. About 80 AD the Wielbark people
>moved to Middle- and Southern Pomerania moving away
>the representatives of the Przeworsk culture to further
>south and soon occupied new territory between Warthe,
>Obra and Notec. In the east the Esti were forced back.
>
>Wolagiewicz has three periods of the Wielbark culture:
>
>1. It is closely associated with the Weneden and Rugi.
>
>2. Then came the Goths and Gepids from Scandinavia.

The Swedish professor Oscar Almgren found an emigration from Gotland
200-300 BC. However he could not find where they went. Not until _Schaetze
der Ostgoten_ appered could I prove the Gotlandic emigration mentioned by
Oscar Almgren be linked with the graves in zone A of the Wielbark culture.
When I discuss this standpoint in Sweden it is noticed with favour by
academics.
Tore


>
>3. The Goths migrate to the southeast and the Black Sea
>leaving the area.
>
>W. is supported by German scholar Volker Bierbrauer.
>
>I have not seem any claims of Prussian connection. When
>exactly would that be in the timeframe of settlement and
>the Wielbark culture?
>
>Germanically
>
>Bertil
>
>What do you
>> think about the proposition of merging of Gothic-germanic traditions
>> and Baltic traditions to form the (Old) Prussians (Prussi). I spend a
>> lot of time in today's Kaliningrad (Koenigsberg) former East Prussia,
>> where archaeologists told me a similar story based on their
>> excavations of Prussian grave sites. At the time I could not really
>> make much sense of it, but the article by Urbanczyk seems to indicate
>> that this is the view of local archaeologists and historians.
>
>
>
>
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