[gothic-l] Gothic Origin

[Le Bateman]

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I assumed that Geatland was OE for Gotland. Was it.
Le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bertil Häggman" <mvk575b at tninet.se>
To: <gothic-l at egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: [gothic-l] Gothic Origin


>
> The matter of Gothic Origin has been the subject
> of a heated debate on this list. The Gautar of
> South Scandinavia are the Goetar of Goetaland
> (the southernmost region of Sweden). Most
> researchers agree that the Geats of Beowulf were
> Goetar.
>
> Linguistically it would be impossible to say what
> the charachteristics were when they were still
> in Goetaland (say around 500 BC to the last century
> BC, when they are supposed to have migrated
> to the now Polish coast around Gdansk.
>
> Gothic belongs to the East Germanic languages
> and is thus different from the Scandinavian languages
> (North Germanic). Obviously the transition to East Germanic
> took place during the migration from northern Poland
> via the Black Sea region to Italy and Spain.
>
> Gothically
>
> Bertil Haggman
>
> > (2) If the Goths are the Scandinavian Gautar and Beowulf's Geats,
> > which of the characteristic features in Gothic are likely to have
> > been there when they still lived in Scandinavia? While the Goths were
> > wandering across Europe, and likely in the process picking up
> > assorted camp-followers and recruits with various mother-tongues and
> > having dealings with various peoples, likely their language would
> > tend
> > to change: in that case from fairly close to Common Germanic to what
> > Wulfila wrote in. This linguistic effect was known from Ancient Greek
> > times onwards: e.g. some Athenian Greeks who had come home after long
> > wanderings were described as "ouket' Attike:n hi:entas, ho:s an
> > pollakhe:i plano:menous" = "no longer speaking Attic Greek, wandering
> > in many roads".
>
>
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