[gothic-l] Re: Ostrogothic or Visigothic Music

[Friþunanþs Ximeneiks - (F. E. Ximenez)]

Greetings Cory,
     Thanks for your reply to Alberto. You've given me some impetus, and
I've started to rummage for more information.
There is a recent Spanish publication (a facsimile manuscript) of the
Antifonale Silense (which is written in Visigothic neumes).

Antifonale Silense
Publicaciones de la Sociedád Española de Musicología. Seccion F; 2
Notes: With plainsong notation: Visigothic neumes with additions in
Aquitanian notation .

The original was in the monastery of Silos in Spain (900). The facsimile
is published by the Sociedad Española de Musicología, Madrid, 1985. with
an intro by Ismael Fernandez de la Cuesta who was the musicologist that
recorded the cd, "CHANT" - the only classical disc ever to make it to a
top 40 list and to earn either a platinum or gold label (don't
remember).

As for the Liber Ordinum, it is in Monastery of Silos in Spain.

Of interest, one might want to keep tabs on the Hill Monastic Manuscript
Library of St. Johns University in Minnesota, USA. It is an ongoing
effort to film and reproduce in every conceivable format every extant
monastic manuscript available. The Liber Ordinum is slated to be copied
and made available on the net. microfilm orders of the manuscripts will
be possible. I could not find out whether the Antifonale Silense is
forthcomming.

Cheers,
F.X.


      cstrohmier at yahoo.com wrote:


>              Here is a summary of some information that I gathered
> awhile
> back on Gothic neums etc..
>       Gothic neums were the notes used to write the chant of the
> Gothic Rite of the Catholic Church:  It has a couple different types
> of script:  horizontal and vertical.  The ancient musicians wrote
> down the notes without using lines.  This meant that later musicians
> who tried to decipher Gothic neums could tell how many notes there
> were, and get a vague idea of how the piece sounded, but it was
> almost impossible to judge the exact tonal height of notes and the
> melodic relationship of a neum to the notes before and after.
>       Fortunately about twenty musical pieces in a manuscript
> called the Liber Ordinum were found; the Gothic neums had been
> erased, and replaced with an Aquitanian system using diastematic
> notation.  These melodies using the Aquitanian system were compared
> with another manuscript of the Liber Ordinum which contained the same
> melodies using the Gothic neums.    This made it possible to decode
> the rest of the Gothic chants.
>       [There is an English version of the "Our Father" available
> which is authentically set to the "Mozarabic" (Gothic) chant in
> modern musical notation; it is sometimes used  at Masses (of the
> Roman Rite):  It might give you some idea of what the chant sounds
> like.]
>       St. Eugenius II, who was of Gothic ancestry and a Catholic
> Bishop of Toledo (the Gothic capitol of  Spain), was a poet and
> musician, and he is believed to have played a role in the development
> of the Gothic chant.  St.  Ildephonsus,  who was also of  Gothic
> ancestry  and Catholic Archbishop of Toledo and Doctor of the Church,
> is believed to have written some of the texts of the Gothic liturgy.
> (After Vatican Council II, the Gothic liturgy was revised, and its
> use extended to all of Spain.)
>       Also there was a  St. Gall (not the Apostle of Switzerland)
> who was a cantor at the chapel of King Theodoric.  St. Gall later
> became the Bishop of Clermont in France.  The church in France
> followed the Gallican Rite, which was very similar to the Gothic
> Rite.  The Gallican Rite used a chant called (not surprisingly) the
> Gallican chant.  St. Gall may have had some influence on this chant.
> (If you have a copy of the Liber Usualis, you  will find several
> ancient Gallican chants in the Catholic liturgy for Good Friday:
> the "Improperia", "Crux fidelis",  "Pange lingu... certaminis",
> and "Vexilla regis".  It also gives the "Spanish Chant" for
> the "Tantum Ergo Sacramentum.")
>       I hope this information is of interest and help to you.

> Cory
>
>
>
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