Gautelfr[gothic-l]The old Border between Norway and Sweden.
Tore Gannholm
tore.gannholm at SWIPNET.SE
Fri Aug 10 06:09:45 UTC 2001
Keth,
We have discussed this before.
Jordanes does not write about Scandza as Scandinavia.
Jordanes says I qoute:
"And at the farthest bound of its western expanse it has another island
named Thule, of which the Mantuan bard makes mention:
"And Farthest Thule shall serve thee."
The same mighty sea has also in its arctic region, that is in the north, a
great island named Scandza, from which my tale (by God's grace) shall take
its beginning. "
Jordanes name for the Scandinavian peninsula is Thule.
Further he does not call Scandza a "large" island but a "great" island.
Tore
>
>In partic-
>ular the
>author Jor-
>danes, who
>wrote in the
>6th century,
>mentions in
>his book
>"Getica"- or
>"about the
>origin and
>deeds of the
>Goths", as
>the book's
>full title
>was - that
>on a large
>island call-
>ed Scandza,
>i. e. today
>"Scandinavia",
>there lived
>peoples call-
>ed "Ostro-
>gothae", "Raum-
>arici" and
>"Aeragnaricii".
>
>Here it is easy
>to recognize
>the Norse end-
>ing -riki in
>two of the
>names, which
>means "king-
>dom" in the
>Nordic lan-
>guages. We
>are then also
>able to iden-
>tify Jordanes'
>Raumarici as
>todays "Romerike"
>which is today
>still the name
>of the area North
>of Oslo.
>
>We then also re-
>cognize Jordanes'
>Aeragnarici as
>"Ranriki" or
>Båhuslen, as it
>was later called.
>
>What about the
>Jordanes' Ostro-
>gothae then?
>Since Jordanes
>mentions these
>in the same sent-
>ence as the Raum-
>arici and the
>A(c)-Ragnaricii,
>it lies near at
>hand to assume
>that several
>centuries before
>the Viking Age,
>in Jordanes'
>time, around
>500 AD, the in-
>habitants of
>Gautland/Götaland
>were called "Ostro-
>Gothae".
>
>Ragnaricanically,
>
>Keth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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