[gothic-l] Re: Germanic and Lappish

[sig]

Hello Dirk,

 I wonder why you sent this to me? What has it to do with this
"Lappish"/ Saami thread? I have never been into any discussion
about any "origin" of the Germanic languages. You should know I am
a non-origoist.

Sig


dirk at smra.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > If Germanic developed in Scandinavia,
> > > Germanic could have taken these words from Lappish.
> >
> > Either way, but now we are talking about events within the last
> > 3000 years "only". Now, re-read your own question against the
> > background I provided above:
>
> Hello Sig,
>
> the following link takes you to a recent paper on the "Origin of the
> Scandinavian Languages" from the linguistics department at the
> University of Stockholm.
>
> http://www.ling.su.se/staff/oesten/papers/Theorigin.pdf
>
> Basically, the author argues that Germanic languages did not develop
> on the Scandinavian peninsula at all. The author concludes that:
>
>  "...the most probable scenario for the origin of the Scandinavian
> languages: Germanic-speaking groups arrived to the western-most corner
> of the Baltic (present-day Gemany and Denmark) somewhat before the
> beginnign of out era. A little later they expanded eastwards as far as
> Uppland on the north side and the Vistula estuary on the souht side of
> the Baltic."
>
> The article also contains some remarks about gothic, making it perhaps
> relevant for others on the list as well.
>
> cheers
>
> >
> > > How far south in
> > > Norway and Sweden have archaeologists found evidence of Lappish
> type
> > > culture being present up to several centuries BC?
> >
> > Answer: From the end of the last ice age (15000 years back), from
> > North Germany and north. Yup, including much of the ancient stone
> > carvings!
> >
> > > If most of Norway
> > > and Sweden were once Lappish territory, it could be that, for
> once, we
> > > see in Lappish a surviving descendant of one of the many
> aboriginal
> > > substratum languages that incoming Indo-European overrode and
> replaced
> > > long ago in its well-known big spread.
> >
> > BINGO!! Accolades.
> >
> > :^D)
> >
> >
> > Sig
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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