[gothic-l] Re: gothic traces in the east?

[Francisc Czobor]

Dear Tiefi,

Regarding the Romanian language, there are some words for which
an East-Germanic origin is considered more probable than other
explanations. They are regarded as Gepidic rather than Gothic, having
in view the fact that the Gepids stayed longer in Dacia than the
Goths.
These words are to be separated from the Germanic words that came into
Romanian through Vulgar Latin, from the Gothic and other Old Germanic
words that came through Slavic, and also from the larger amount of
German words that were borrowed from the Transylvanian Saxons
(directly or through Hungarian).

These Romanian words of presumably Gothic/Gepidic origin are:

ba^lca~ "jug, mug" < Gep. *bollika, cf. O.Eng. bolla "vessel, cup",
         OHG bolla "round vessel"
bulz "clod" < Gep. *bultja or *bulti, cf. MHG bulte "clod, boulder,
         heap", Low German Buelte "heap, knoll"
nasture "button" < Got. nestilo "cord, string" or OHG nestila "bow,
         ribbon"
rapa~n "itch" < Got.-Gep. rappo (Gen. rappons), cf. MHG rapfe "itch"
sta~rnut "with white-spotted forehead (about horses)" < Got. stairno
         or Gep. *sterno or OHG sterno "star", cf. Swed. stjerna
         "star; white spot on horse's forehead"
strugure "grape" < Got. *thrubilo or Gep. *struwilo (cf. MHG trubel
          < OHG triuba "grape")
targa~ "stretcher" < Got./Gep. *targa, cf. OHG zarga "enclosure"
tureci "trousers, pants" < Got. *theuhbrok or Gep. *theubreki, cf.
        OHG theohproch, diohpruoch "trousers"
zgudui "to shake" < Gep. *skudojan, cf. O.Sax. skuddian "tremble,
        shake", O.Fris. skedda "push, shake", OHG scutten, scuien
        "shake, stir, pour"

And one remark, Tiefi, if you don't mind:

There are no "Romano-Vlach-Albanian semi-nomads". "Vlach" is an old,
mediaeval Slavic name for Romanians - both North-Danubian Romanians
(Daco-Romanians) and South-Danubian Romanians (Macedo-Romanians,
Megleno-Romanians, Istro-Romanians and the extinct Maurovlachoi).
The Slavs used this name initially for Romans generally, later it was
restricted to the Romance speaking neighbors of the Slavs - Romanians
or Italians. The Albanians are different from the Romanians (Vlachs),
although their languages share a common Thracian substratum.

Francisc

GUTANI WIHAILAG


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