[gothic-l] Re: Ostrogoths in Italy, Britain or China (or on the moon?)

andreas.schwarcz at UNIVIE.AC.AT andreas.schwarcz at UNIVIE.AC.AT
Wed Jan 31 00:51:57 UTC 2001


On 30 Jan 2001, at 23:28, ingemar.nordgren at ebox.tninet.se wrote:


> That far I have read Procopius, but he is not so exact you might be
> sure there were no Goths going to Spain already before the rebellion.
> What Ragnaris concerns I think he was of Allemannic or possibly
> Northern  origin - in any case not an Ostrogoth.I tried to make a
> closer examination of him but found I needed more sources. Think of
> pursuing that thread some time in the future. What happened to the
> last defeated Goths is also quite sparsely treated.Some may have
> escaped before surrender in the between period. Maybe Agatias is a
> better source then. I agree however that the main-body stayed in
> Italy.
> 
> Kindly 
> Ingemar
> 
Dear Ingemar,
Agathias, Histories, I 6, expressly states that after the battle of 
mons Lactarius and the death of Teja all Goths went home to their 
possessions in Italy, which had been guaranteed to them by 
Narses. Agathias does not mention any kind of emigration at this 
moment at all. As I previously wrote, we may suppose regular 
intercourse and travelling to and fro in the time of the Visigothic 
kings Theudis and Theudegisel. Theudis at least surely was an 
Ostrogoth and he lead an Ostrogothic army into Spain in the time 
of Theoderic. All the information Agathias gives states that most of 
the Goths stayed in Italy and some were sent as soldiers to 
Constantinople, which is confirmed by the evidence collected by 
Ludwig Schmidt in the two articles I cited.
Kind regards
              Andreas

Ao.Univ.Prof.Dr.Andreas Schwarcz
Institut für österreichische Geschichtsforschung
Universität Wien
Dr.Karl Lueger-Ring 1
A-1010 Wien
Österreich
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