[gothic-l] Eddaic Poetry and Goths, Godheimar. Hof-godar

[keth at ONLINE.NO]

Bertil wrote:
>
>The Goths appear in the Poetic Edda in different forms:
>Gothjod "Gothia", Gotar "Goths", gotnescr "Gothish".
>But one should always remember that the "epic Goths" may
>correspond in reality to the "historic" Hun, and vice versa
>("movable nationality").

Hails Bertil!
I will look up the words you mention here.

1) Goð-þjóþ:  it occurs in:
Volospá 30
Helreið Brynhildar 9
Guðrúnarhvot 8, 16
Hloðskviða 10, 14.

Gotþjóð = the land of the Goths,
which is not the same as Goðþjóð. (gods)

2) Gotar:
Grímnismál 2
Grípisspá 35
Brot af Sigurðarkviðu 13, (9)
Atlakviþa 21
Guðrúnarhvot 2
Hamðismál 3, (10a), 22, (28), 30
Hervararkviða 20
Hloðskviða 3, 18, 26, prosa fra 30-31.
(the parantheses indicate varying verse
numbers in different versions. I will
get back to more details later)

3) gotneskr:
Guðrúnarkviða II 17.

4) Gautland:
Skáldskaparmál 81.

5) Gotnar:
Skáldskaparmál 81.

6) Gotnaland:
Grímnismál 2.

7) Gotland:
Gróttasongr prosa.
Skáldskaparmál 52, 81.

8) Reiðgotaland:
Heiðreksgátur prosa
Snorra-Edda 4  <--
Skáldskaparmál 81.

9) Eygotaland:
Skáldskaparmál 81.


I also found the Old Norse text of your Heimskringla
excerpts:

>The name "Home of the Goths" appears in Heimskringla.
>"This [kind] of Svithjod they called Mannheimar (Sw.
>Manhem); but Sweden the Great (Svithjod in mikla) they called
>Godheimar. About this Godheimar many stories are told.
>

Þessa Svíþjóð kolluðu þeir Manheima, en ina miklu Svíþjóð
kolluðu þeir Goðheima; ór Goðheimum sogðu þeir morg tíðendi.

Note: Manheima, Goðheima and Goðheimum are plurals!
Manheimar = the regions where men live.
Goðheimar = the regions where gods live.
(mannheimen og gudeheimen)


>Before the mention of Godheimar one can find
>Tana-kvisl (Don), which was the home of the
>Aesir (Asaland or Asaheimr), and the capital
>(hofudborg) called Asgardr.

Fyrir austan Tanakvísl í Ásía var kallat Ásaland eða
Ásaheimr, en hofuðborgin, er var í landinu, kolluðu þeir
Ásgarð.

East of the Tana-delta in Asia it was called ...

>
>In this capital, so Snorri, ruled the chieftain
>(hofdingi) whose name was Odin...The rule
>prevailed that twelwe chiefs (=temple-priests=
>hof-godar) were highest in rank.

En í borginni var hofðingi sá, er Óðinn var kallaðr; þar
var blótsaðr mikill. Þat var þar siðr, at .xii. hofgoðar
váru oeztir; skyldu þeir ráða fyrir blótum ok dómum manna
í milli.

And they governed the sacrifices as well as court decisions
between men.

Golja þuk,
Keþ.



Ifrån Snorre-Eddans prolog:
Oden satte tre av sina söner att styra över landet. En hette Veg-
deg, han var en mäktig kung och rådde över östra Saxland. Hans son
var Vittergils, hans söner var Vitta, far till Hengest och Sigar, far till
Svebdeg, som vi kallar Svipdag. Odens andra son hette Beldeg, vi
kallar honom Balder. Han ägde det land som nu heter Västfalen.
Hans son var Brand, hans son Friodigar, som vi kallar Frode, hans
son var Freovin, hans son Vigg, hans son Gevis, som vi kallar Gave.
Odens tredje son hette Sigge, hans son Rere. De släktleden rådde
över det som nu kallas Frankland, och därifrån kom den ätt som de kal-
las völsungarna. Från alla dem har kommit många och stora ätter.
Sedan började Oden sin färd norrut och kom till ett land som de kal-
lade Reidgotaland. Han lade under sig allt han önskade i det landet
och satte sin son Skiöld att härska där. Hans son hette Fridleif och
därifrån kommer den ätt som kallas sköldungarna. Det är dana-
kungarna, och det som då kallades Reidgotaland heter nu Jylland.
  Sedan for Oden norrut till det som nu heter Svitjod. Där fanns
en kung som hette Gylfe, ...
                            (Snorres Edda, side 28, Fabel 1997)



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