[gothic-l] Re:_ni_was__im_rumis_in_stada_þamma

Thu Jul 26 11:55:35 UTC 2001

 --- dirk at smra.co.uk wrote:
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> > ni was  im rumis in stada þamma 
there was no room for them in the <BR>
> inn. <BR>
> <BR>
> > But yes, it is Gothic, only I'm not sure
about the word usage.<BR>
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> I posted this, it is from Wulfilas´s Gothic Bible
verbatim. The <BR>
> translation though is the King James version,
hence it may not be <BR>
the <BR>
> most literal translation, nor does it state its
etymology and <BR>
> declensions.<BR>
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> <BR>
> Golja þuk,<BR>
> Anþanareiks<BR>
> <a
href="http://www.geocities.com/ordlag_godvegr/Gothic_Language_Institute">http://www.geocities.com/ordlag_godvegr/Gothic_Language_Institute</a><BR>
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> > rums means indeed "room, space"
(like German "Raum"), but I'm not <BR>
> > convinced that it could be used in the sense
of "hotel-room". <BR>
> Anyway, <BR>
> > I think that in this context it should
appear in nominative <BR>
(rums), <BR>
> > not in genitive (rumis). Another word that
seems to me more <BR>
> > appropriate is heþjo "chamber,
room".<BR>
> > The word staþs (here in dative: stada) means
"place, <BR>
neighborhood". <BR>
> I <BR>
> > don't know why it is used here for
"inn". I would use rather <BR>
> saliþwos  "mansion,
guest-chamber".<BR>
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Hi, <BR>
<BR>
I just noticed that the Gothic word "stada"
may be related to the <BR>
Bavarian word "stadl". "Stadl" can
mean house, inn, pub, etc...<BR>

Interesting, is it by a chance also related to the
swedish word "stad" ( town, city ) ?
Well, I wouldn't be surprised considering the fact
that in this context we are all talking about germanic
words. :)
But still, I would like to know, thank you.

/Leonardo.

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