[gothic-l] Language of the Guta Saga
Anþanareiks
anthanaric at HOTMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 17 17:12:23 UTC 2001
Hails List and Bertil!
Here is my first glance, partial translation of some of the text.
Migration section of the Guta Saga.
sithan af thissum thrim aucathis fulc j gutlandi som mikit um
langan tima
sit at this yhree Gothland some great
long time
ON mikill = great
ON tima = time
Sithan wildu thair nauthugir bort fara men foru
innan thors borg Oc bygthus thar firir.
Sit wild their needmind/heart? bore away men from in
Thors fort and dwell there awhile.
Translated from a knowledge of ON.
Oc vpp ginum ryza land so fierri foru thair at thair *quamu til
griclanz*.
and
the ending looks similar to Gothic
ON Ok = and
Gothic *and* would be - jah
thar baddus thair byggias firir af grica kunungi. vm. ny. oc nithar
kunungr
In ON kunungi may mean knowledge or maybe more like king
Gothic kunnan, to know, kunþi, n.
ON konnugr, is king.
* þissun þaira wiþratta quam* firir drytningina vm sithir tha segthi
han.
Beginning looks very gothic
Guta Saga
Eptir thet sithan quam helgi olauir kunungr flyandi af nerweigi mith
After they sit king
flys with
If kunungr in fact means king rather then Gothic kunnan, to know, it
would seem related to Proto-Norse.
schipum oc legthis j hamn. tha sum callar acrgarn thar la helgi olaujr
ON helgi - holy
vm sendimen kunungs nemna wilia et
nemna looks like ON take neman
wilia may mean ON vilja, wish, want
thair miþ laglicum forfallum haima satin. ... Engin gief nemda aithir
j
miþ ON with
gutlandi vtan kunungs aithir
aiþir looks gothic
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An understanding of the language of the Guta saga would be of great
interest to many.
I see similarities with Old Icelandic and Gothic, while I am not a
professional in antiquarian Germanic linguistics, I would say that
there may be more similarites to Proto-Norse then Gothic, not
saying that I see many similarities and that unique Gothic style
which would indicate influences from both, in some yet discerned
way, which also would not be surprising since the farther you trace
back Germanic languages the more similar they would be, e.g.
monogenesis. Wheither it is an offshoot of Proto-Norse or Gothic, at
this time I could not say.
Thoughts from others who are familar with the Gothic language?
Golja þuk,
Anþanareiks
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