[gothic-l] Re: Christianisation of Crimean Goths

[dirk at SMRA.CO.UK]

Dear Andreas,

further about literature references about the arrival of Germanic 
settlers on the Crimean peninsula, I found the following site, which 
gives a short note by Aleksandr Aibabin abou the Alans:

http://jam.iif.szabinet.hu/rendez/barbar/resume/Aibabin.html

Aibabin writes: 

"At the very beginning of the 5th century on the slopes of the second
ridge which had been inhabited by the Alans and Germans since the 
second half of the 3d century (in Skalistoe, at the foot of
Baklaand Mangup, and that of the first ridge ( in Luchistoe new 
necropolises with T-shaped vaults and shaft-and-chamber graves
were springing up."

This also seems to indicate that Aibabin is of the opinion that 
Germanic/Gothic settlers had arrived on the (southern) Crimean as 
early as the mid 3rd century (or more precisely the second half of hte 
3rd century). 

One of A. Aibabin's main works on the topic is called "Etnicheskaya 
istoria rannevezantiskogo krima", 1999, (i.e. The Ehnic history of 
early Byzantine Crimea). I have not yet had a chance to look at it, 
but the British Library does have it so I will be able to consult the 
book soon. 

cheers,

Dirk








--- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> Dear Andreas,
> 
> thanks for all the links. Unfortunately, so far I could not get them 
> to work but will try to find the literature. 
> 
> Aleksandr Aibabin (Simfereopol) wrote in 'Sto Let Chernyakhovskogo 
> Cultura' (I only have a bad copy in Russian with an incomplete 
> reference):
> 
> Aibabin said that the Germanic settlement of the Crimean at the end 
of 
> the first half of the 3rd century significantly changed the 
> ethno-political make-up of the Crimean peninsula. ..... Germanic 
> tribesmen pushed into the Crimean after Roman garrisons started to 
> withdraw in the 240s AD to bolster the Danubian frontier, thus 
> benefitting from the Roman withdrawal
> 
> .... In the middle of the 3rd century the new cemetaries of 
Chatirdg, 
> Ai-todor, Partenit and Chernaya reka start, which are closely 
> associated with the Germanic settlement on the Crimean peninsula. 
....
> 
> 
> Also, an author Igor Pioro "O Chernyakhovskoi kulturi na krimu" 
wrote 
> in 2000 that 
> 
> "... Germanic urn and incremation burrials on Crimean start in the 
> middle of the 3rd century AD. These can be found in the graveyards 
of 
> Sovkhos Sevastopolskii, Chernaya reka, Belbek I, in the oblast' of 
> Chersones and Ai-Todor, as well as Chatirdag and several others. 
> ....In these Chernyakov-type cemetaries all characteristics of the 
> general incremation practice is presnent which reflects traditions 
of 
> the Wielbark as well as the Przeworsk cultures.....
> 
> The distribution of the mid-3rd century Chernyakov-type cemetaries 
on 
> the Crimean together with documentary evidence and the fact that the 
> Germanic language was attested into the 15th (sic!) century, 
supports 
> the thesis that the Chernyakovsk-type graves should be attibuted to 
> Germanic settlers. .....
> 
> 
> (all my translations)
> 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Dirk
> 
> 
> 
> --- In gothic-l at y..., andreas.schwarcz at u... wrote:
> > Dear Dirk;
> > Here is my reference:
> > 
> > {HYPERLINK 
> 
"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/0608774
> 4"}Gomolka-Fuchs, Gudrun [Hrsg.] {HYPERLINK 
> 
"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/0090610
> 7"}1.Körperschaft 
> > {HYPERLINK 
> 
"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/FIND-ACC/00906107"
> }Deutsches Archäologisches Institut <Berlin> / Römisch-Germanische 
> > Kommission {HYPERLINK 
> 
"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/0608774
> 5"}Die Sîntana de Mures-Cernjachov-Kultur. Akten des 
> > internationalen Kolloquiums in Caputh vom 20. bis 24. Oktober 
1995. 
> > Römisch-Germanische Kommission, Eurasien-Abteilung. Hrsg. von 
> > Gudrun Gomolka-Fuchs.  Bonn {HYPERLINK 
> 
"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/0013321
> 7"}Verlag {HYPERLINK 
> 
"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/FIND-ACC/00133217"
> }Habelt Jahr 1999,
> > 
> > especially the article of Karl von der Lohe on the Crimea. 
Alexandr 
> > Aibabin and a lot of other archeologists from Russia, Moldavia and 
> > Ucraina were also there and agreed with von der Lohe on the 
subject. 
> I 
> > was there, too, and discussed the theme with them.
> > If Aibabin published anything disagreeing with the results of this 
> > conference, I should like to have the reference.
> > Kind regards,
> >         Andreas 
> > 
> > ao.Univ.Prof.Dr.Andreas Schwarcz
> > Institut fuer oesterreichische Geschichtsforschung
> > Universitaet Wien
> > Dr.Karl-Lueger-Ring 1
> > A 1010 Wien
> > Oesterreich
> > tel.0043/1/42-77/272-16
> > fax 0043/1/42-77/92-72
> > email andreas.schwarcz at u...


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