[gothic-l] Re: Goth=Gad

[Yair Davidi]

At 11:37 26/06/01 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In gothic-l at y..., "Tim O'Neill" <scatha at b...> wrote:
> > It's not a joke unfortunately.  There's a weird
> > branch of fundamentalist Christians called
> > 'British Israelites' who believe the twelve lost
> > tribes of Israel wandered into northern Europe
> > and founded England, amongst other places.

Not only christians but also Jews and scholars such as Philip Lozinski.
The Medieval scholar Rashi also appears to have been of a similar opinion.
If some of the Europeans could have come from Inner Asia why not also
(or beforehand) from the Middle East.

DNA tests do trace many in Western Europe (as distinct from the rest)
back to the Near East but the dates given are enormously too far back.




>Hi Tim,
>
>Yeah, its always either some extreme forms of religion or
>patriotism when reason goes through the window. The text mentioned the
>name of Osnabrueck (a town in North Germany) as being derived from
>some Israelitic leader (?) called Assi (e.g. Assi-brueck). An extreme
>patriot would probably have pointed to the medieval latin name of the
>town "Asenburggensis" and claimed that it is derived from the Asen
>gods. In reality Osnabrueck means the same as Oxford, i.e. a place at
>a river that was shallow enough to drive oxens across ... c'est tout.

The name was Ozni (son of Gad) and the "z" was replaced with "s" in the north.
The way of names is that an original meaning may be intended but according
to the
  sound another meaning is attached due to circumstance.
For example the Franks were called Rippuari by the Romans allegedly because
they
dwelt on the banks of the Rhine.
Actually the Franks termed themselves "Ribbuari" and the Romans
rationalized this name
to something that was descriptive in their own langauge and sounded similar.
Foreign Names in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and  in most other languages follow
the same pattern
of rationalization in the local tongue.


>cheers,
>Dirk
>


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