[gothic-l] Re: Not Danparstadir

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--- In gothic-l at y..., keth at o... wrote:
> Hi Anders,
> Maybe this is a bit off topic, but perhaps it can be
> seen as an example of principles involved?
>
> >As far as my knowledge goes it is ONLY Homer that uses the name
> >Danai as a general term for greeks. And then the Illiad is
> >fictional..., so I don't believe the greeks ever called called
> >themselves Danai really.
>
> "The ancient Greeks" is a collective term for all the people who
spoke
> Greek, say before Alexander. At some time they must then have
> begun to call themselves "Greeks". But maybe the very oldest Greeks
> did not call themselves Greeks (yet). A common language, or closely
> related dialects is not necessarily enough for a common name.
> Or is it? Then the ancient Germans ought to have had a common
> name from long before the Romans began to call them Germanii.
> The same with the Goths. Did they call themselves Goths from
> the very beginning, or was this just a name that became attached
> later?
>
> (In other words: Did Berig call himself a Goth?)
>
>
> >But apparently there was an ancient tribe in Argos or Argolis in
> >today's Greece that was called Danaoi. These are coupled tho the
myth
> >about Danaos and Aigyptos which in brief goes:
> >Danaos had 50 daughters who married 50 of Aigyptos sons. They were
> >instructed by their father to kill their husbands on the wedding
> >night, and all of them did so exept one. Then they fled to greece,
to
> >Argos according to some versions, but according to Herodotos they
> >came to Rhodes.
>
> Interesting myth. Could it relate to a story about Amazons?
>
>
> >
> >Because of this the (and possibly other evidence) Danaoi seems to
be
> >connected to the Sea People tribe Danuna, which took part in the
> >attacks on Egypt around 1200 BC. This tribe also seems to be
> >connected to the Dan tribe in the Old Testament.
>
> Do you believe the ancient Israelites was such a tremendously
> large group of people, that all later groups are somehow
> related to one or more of their tribes?
>
> I was actually amazed when I read that archaeologist have hardly
> found a single trace of Israel's 400 year stay in Egypt.
>
> The sea peoples are interesting. I believe they were
> the ones who attacked the coasts of Palestine and settled
> there as Filistians. But according to the Bible, the sea peoples
> were then the foes of the Jews, and not their own lost tribes.
>
> Best regards
> Keth


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