[gothic-l] Re: Sarmatians and Goths in Poland

dirk at SMRA.CO.UK dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Wed Mar 7 17:15:33 UTC 2001


--- In gothic-l at y..., Xoxana at w... wrote:
>       Stalin came from the South Ossetian Autonomous Republic of
> Georgia.


Hi again,

I am not sure why this is important but we had a South Ossetian
Autonomous Region (not republic) within Georgia in Stalin's time, just
as a North Ossetian Autonomous Region (not republic). Only after the
fall of the Soviet Union they declared republican status (if I am not
mistaken). But this is way off-list.


Some people say he was an ethnic Ossetian. The name
Djugashvili
> is Georgian, though, at least the -vili part.


Well, he himself considered himself a Georgian, so did Lenin as he
frequently called him the 'Splendid Georgian'. But who knows, much is
obscure about his early life.



>      You can't distinguish language from race.


And why not? There are many examples of language shifts in history,
when one ethnic group adopted a new language.



 The ancient Alans
were
> yellow-haired and spoke an Iranian dialect.  The Ossetian language
is
> descended from the Alan language.
> The racial type of the ancient Alans has largely been destroyed by
> mixture with other types such as Turks and Mongols.




ok, that is certainly possible.



>      It is irrational to use a political or ad hominem argument to
make
> a scholarly point.
> I have presented evidence that the ancient Iranians were of the
northern
> European type.  You don't have any evidence at all on the subject.



I never claimed to have evidence on the subject. I just suggested that
 the description of 'fair-haired' may depend on the eye of the
beholder. Is there any evidence apart from ancient authors
describtion? i.e. archaeological finds?




> Name-calling is not evidence.  Political diatribes are not logical.
>       I have more evidence of studies of the skulls of ancient
Iranians,
> but I don't think you are interested in facts.


I am always interested in facts


cheers
Dirk


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