[gothic-l] Re: Are EE Jews half-Goths?

[jdm314 at AOL.COM]

--- In gothic-l at y..., angelique_oh at y... wrote:
> 
> I am Austrian and speak German as a native language, so maybe I can 
> add some facts to this.
> 
> the written  ä or ae  is always pronounced as "e". It is really the 
> same. Just indicated the origin of a word, if it is the plural of 
> something with "a" or so...

I will have to defer to your knowledge as a native speaker, but my 
understanding was that in Standard German, ae was pronounced as in 
English "hat" when in closed syllables, but identically with the (non-
schwa) <e> in open ones. Do you disagree with this?

> Sure the yiddish words mentioned above show umlauts in the plural. 

That's my point. Yiddish has lost the front rounded vowels shown in 
standard German, the so-called umlaut vowels, but that doesn't mean 
it has no umlaut at all.

> 
> Just the spelling is different, maybe like someone who speaks 
German, 
> but did not learn to write in German, and later wrote like he spoke.

The spelling represents the YIVO orthography... Yiddish is of course 
normally written in the Hebrew alphabet. YIVO aimed to be as phonetic 
as possible, and to avoid German-style orthography (e.g. using <kh> 
instead of <ch>)


> 
> However the words mentioned above are very close to the Austrian 
> pronouncation of the written German.
> So all Austrians are Jewish? 
> *ROFL*

You're not the first Austrian to tell me this ;)


Zay gezunt un gotish,
Moyshe Dovid Mansfeld (IUSTEINUS)



> 
> No, I think it is just a dialect, and during the last centuries 
many 
> jewish people had been in Vienna and Prag (where the people who 
spoke 
> German, simmilar to the German here, and sure with the pronounced 
i , 
> where the written Ü (ue) was)
> 
> 
> Servus aus Wien
> Angelique


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