[gothic-l] Re: Are EE Jews half-Goths?

[l_labkovsky at HOTMAIL.COM]

--- In gothic-l at y..., jdm314 at a... wrote:
> OK.
> > I'm sure that Ostrogoths disliked their Sarmatian offspring
because
> > Mulatoes are always disliked by their purebred parents. Look at
> > Brasil or West Indies Mulatoes and how they are treated.
Ostrogoths
> > didn't want the parental responsibility for these mixed-blood
> > offspring and escaped to Italy. Even today many men run away to
> avoid
> > parental responsibility. These "Mulatoes" were too embarrassed to
> > admit that they were Ostrogoth "bastards" so they invented the
> rumour
> > that they were Jews from Germany.I think that the Yiddish
>
> It is one thing to convince people that they are Jews, it's another
> thing to convince them to therefor follow 613 Commandments,
including
> painful circumcision and dietary laws, and to form internationally
> recognized Rabbinic hierarchies on the basis of that rumor.
> Once these "Mulatoes" were convinced they were Jews circumcision
was no problem. When I came to Israel from Russia they circumcised me
too. I think these "mulatoes" were convinced by itinerant Jewish
rabbis that the former were Jews from Germany, the same way Khazars
were converted.
> > word "mamzer" is how Ostrogoths called their mixed-blood
offspring.
> > These offspring lived separately from Ostrogoths with their
Sarmat
> or
> > Caucasian mothers and were called mamzer from the
> > word "mame"(mother)."Mamzer" is the "scariest" word in Yiddish by
> far.
>
> The word Mamzer is a direct borrowing from Hebrew. The word goes
all
> the way back to the Bible... if you're desperate for proof I can
cite
> the verse for you. The Latin translation of the Bible keeps the
word
> untranslated (which means odds are, so did Ulphilas' Gothic
> translation).
>      While it is possible that the Yiddish word momzer resembles
the
> Hebrew word by some amazing coincidence, actually coming from an
> entirely diffent source, this seems rather unlikely. Furthermore,
> Yiddish normally spells the word using Hebrew orthography (while
> Yiddish normally uses the Hebrew letters in a manner rather
different
> from the way Hebrew itself uses them, words borrowed from Hebrew or
> Aramaic normally keep their original spelling, no matter how they
are
> pronounced. Compare the English word hors d'oeuvre, which would be
> spelled something like "orderve" if were going by the usual rules
for
> English... but we're not, we're going by the rules of French, a
sure
> sign that Yiddish speakers accept that etymology.
>
>
> -IUSTEINUS
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> > > >> > cheers
> > > >> > Dirk
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